We have villages in Ohio.  Example: http://villageofannaoh.com/


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> In Illinois I know of cities, towns and villages. There  may be more that
> I'm forgetting.
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> Mike Hammett
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> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:29:57 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...
>
> I had never heard the term "village" used in North America until recently.
> "Towns" and "cities" yes, but I was always under the assumption a "village"
> was a "town" in Europe.
>
> On Jul 26, 2016 6:40 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Not for small villages with almost no budget.
>>
>> On 7/26/2016 6:29 PM, Daniel White wrote:
>>
>> I’d guess Cambium would say that the 450i platform is a better fit for
>> government projects.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>>
>> ConVergence Technologies
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:21 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...
>>
>>
>>
>> If only Cambium would let us unlock 4.9 on ePMP for the gov't projects
>> we're doing.... hint hint, poke poke.
>>
>> On 7/26/2016 3:12 PM, Daniel White wrote:
>>
>> If it is under a government FRN… then there is no license fees.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can’t have the link licensed under your FRN.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>>
>> ConVergence Technologies
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 8:57 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...
>>
>>
>>
>> >public safety agency owns the equipment they can license and only pay
>> coordination costs (no FCC fees)
>>
>>
>>
>> So when you edit/add the site information on the FCC sites you don't have
>> to pay if it's for government use?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Adam,
>>
>>
>>
>> To answer your question, you cannot use 4.9GHz to provide internet
>> service, regardless of whom the end user is.  Commercial traffic cannot
>> pass over public safety systems (although a 4.9GHz user can distribute the
>> Internet on their internal network using 4.9GHz).
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d guess if the tower site was the Demarc, the safety agency had a
>> contract to lease space on the tower, and you donated the equipment to the
>> safety agency it would all be kosher.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not a fan of 4.9GHz for most applications personally – remember
>> safety agencies with higher priority in a disaster can shut down other
>> networks to prevent interference (for instance, if FEMA moves into an area
>> they can tell the city to shut down).
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally I’d use a Part 101 band and be done with it.  Once again
>> though, if the public safety agency owns the equipment they can license and
>> only pay coordination costs (no FCC fees).  So I would lease the equipment
>> to the customer as part of the broadband services contract.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>>
>> ConVergence Technologies
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 3:53 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to know, I will take a look.
>>
>> Is a county office OK to use 4.9?
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jaime Fink
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 2:23 PM
>> *To:* Jaime Solorza; [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...
>>
>>
>>
>> B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+
>> aggregate in it’s max allowable channel configuration in that band. Great
>> distance for it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaime Fink • Mimosa <http://www.mimosa.co> • CPO & Co-Founder
>>
>>
>>
>> On July 25, 2016 at 2:18:33 PM, Jaime Solorza ([email protected])
>> wrote:
>>
>> Our county folks have Cisco 4.9Ghz radios but are replacing with 3.65 GHz
>> due to hundreds of Radwins used across border by state and federal
>> agencies.   I know Airaya had some 4.9GHz ptp solutions.... I know in 5GHz
>> once they go up they stay up pretty solidly.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2016 2:57 PM, "SmarterBroadband" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We currently provide 100 meg to our local county offices on an AF24.
>>
>>
>>
>> They want us to move the link to another location will be a 4.3 mile
>> link, so AF24 is out.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need a link to do 100 meg now and be able to do 200 when requested, I
>> want five nines, so Licensed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I use 4.9 Ghz for this?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is available for PTP in 4.9Ghz?
>>
>>
>>
>> If not, I could use a B11, but I hate to waste 11 Ghz spectrum on a short
>> link.
>>
>>
>>
>> Suggestions in Licensed  18Ghz?
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW they are price sensitive.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
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