In Illinois I know of cities, towns and villages. There may be more that I'm 
forgetting. 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

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The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:29:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... 


I had never heard the term "village" used in North America until recently. 
"Towns" and "cities" yes, but I was always under the assumption a "village" was 
a "town" in Europe. 


On Jul 26, 2016 6:40 PM, "George Skorup" < [email protected] > wrote: 



Not for small villages with almost no budget. 


On 7/26/2016 6:29 PM, Daniel White wrote: 

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I’d guess Cambium would say that the 450i platform is a better fit for 
government projects. 


Daniel White 
Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales 
ConVergence Technologies 
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 
[email protected] 




From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of George Skorup 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:21 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... 

If only Cambium would let us unlock 4.9 on ePMP for the gov't projects we're 
doing.... hint hint, poke poke. 

On 7/26/2016 3:12 PM, Daniel White wrote: 
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If it is under a government FRN… then there is no license fees. 

You can’t have the link licensed under your FRN. 

Daniel White 
Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales 
ConVergence Technologies 
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 
[email protected] 




From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 8:57 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... 


> public safety agency owns the equipment they can license and only pay 
> coordination costs (no FCC fees) 



So when you edit/add the site information on the FCC sites you don't have to 
pay if it's for government use? 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Daniel White < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Adam, 

To answer your question, you cannot use 4.9GHz to provide internet service, 
regardless of whom the end user is. Commercial traffic cannot pass over public 
safety systems (although a 4.9GHz user can distribute the Internet on their 
internal network using 4.9GHz). 

I’d guess if the tower site was the Demarc, the safety agency had a contract to 
lease space on the tower, and you donated the equipment to the safety agency it 
would all be kosher. 

I’m not a fan of 4.9GHz for most applications personally – remember safety 
agencies with higher priority in a disaster can shut down other networks to 
prevent interference (for instance, if FEMA moves into an area they can tell 
the city to shut down). 

Personally I’d use a Part 101 band and be done with it. Once again though, if 
the public safety agency owns the equipment they can license and only pay 
coordination costs (no FCC fees). So I would lease the equipment to the 
customer as part of the broadband services contract. 


Daniel White 
Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales 
ConVergence Technologies 
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 
[email protected] 




From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 3:53 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... 

Good to know, I will take a look. 
Is a county office OK to use 4.9? 
Adam 



From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Jaime Fink 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:23 PM 
To: Jaime Solorza; [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... 


B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+ 
aggregate in it’s max allowable channel configuration in that band. Great 
distance for it. 




Jaime Fink • Mimosa • CPO & Co-Founder 

On July 25, 2016 at 2:18:33 PM, Jaime Solorza ( [email protected] ) 
wrote: 
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Our county folks have Cisco 4.9Ghz radios but are replacing with 3.65 GHz due 
to hundreds of Radwins used across border by state and federal agencies. I know 
Airaya had some 4.9GHz ptp solutions.... I know in 5GHz once they go up they 
stay up pretty solidly. 



On Jul 25, 2016 2:57 PM, "SmarterBroadband" < [email protected] > 
wrote: 


We currently provide 100 meg to our local county offices on an AF24. 

They want us to move the link to another location will be a 4.3 mile link, so 
AF24 is out. 

I need a link to do 100 meg now and be able to do 200 when requested, I want 
five nines, so Licensed. 

Can I use 4.9 Ghz for this? 

What is available for PTP in 4.9Ghz? 

If not, I could use a B11, but I hate to waste 11 Ghz spectrum on a short link. 

Suggestions in Licensed 18Ghz? 

BTW they are price sensitive. 

Thanks 

Adam 





        
        
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