Train crossings are no joke. When I worked at school district a few years ago, a young principal went around cross guards while on cellphone talking to a school employee... Amtrak!!! Killed her instantly.... Luckily train didn't derail.
On Sep 29, 2016 2:10 PM, "Cameron Crum" <[email protected]> wrote: > I dated a girl that had a run in with a train at one of those crossings. > Tree lined road, night time, no lights, or crossing arms, rural south > Texas. She saw the light of the engine as she was approaching the tracks at > 50+mph. Slammed on the brakes and hit the third car. Got out of it with a > broken ankle and ticket for failure to yield to a train. Lucky. > > Same girl was involved in a head on collision a year earlier. She was in > the back seat of her brother's mustang when a sleepy driver in the oncoming > lane veered into their lane at the last second. Both cars were doing in > excess of 60. She was not wearing a seat belt and was looking between the > seats when they hit. Her male friend in the back seat caught her mid air by > the legs and she ended up breaking her nose on the windshield as her only > injury. Her brother driving broke both legs and several ribs. The other > driver was dead on impact. I told her you only get three strikes. > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just to make clear where I’m coming from, we are out in the country and >> have people killed fairly regularly at RR crossings without gates or >> signals. Roads cross RR tracks at an angle, and I hate the limited >> visibility out of a cargo van and anything that further restricts the >> visibility, I have even considered getting glass in the passenger side >> sliding door because that’s a blind spot at some of these RR crossings. >> Luckily the sand trains are slow. The Amtrak trains though will kill you. >> I have 2 customers with family members who experienced death by Amtrak. >> They do typically put gates at crossings *after* someone is killed. For >> example 18th Rd. by Leland, and 23rd Rd. by Somonauk, and that’s just >> one 5 mile stretch of track. Personally, I want to see both ways even if >> there is a gate. >> >> >> >> There’s also the constant risk of backing over someone’s mailbox, I guess >> a backup camera would take care of that. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:00 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question >> >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> On Sep 29, 2016 12:55 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I can give a first hand example from my EMS days of where they would have >> saved a person. A "woman" was driving a cargo van and got in a wreck, the >> front end crumpled, drivers door was seized, items from the back speared >> through the drivers seat.on her right side. fuel ignited under the vehicle. >> The accident was 8 miles out from our ambulance garage, getting through >> town and to the scene was probably all told 10-12 minutes >> >> bystanders stopped to help, she was begging and pleading for them to get >> her out. Theycould not open the drivers door, but were able to get the >> passenger door opened. the fire engulfed the engine compartment. we were >> advised of the consious alert patient and the fire via radio so we put the >> hammer down. >> >> By the time we arrived, we assisted the bystanders with their burns, they >> drove themselves to the hospital. >> >> We then waited on scene for the coroner, and assisted with the body >> removal. Just fyi, toss a hot dog in a campfire and let it burn, thats what >> a fresh burn corpse smells like. >> >> One of the bystanders to this day still isnt right in the head having had >> to back out of a burning vehicle and listen helplessly to a person burn >> alive. >> >> >> >> The short of the story is who really gives a shit what the law is. cargo >> vehicles need them, especially utility >> >> >> >> Its inconvenient as hell to have to harness up and hook lanyard all the >> way up a tower. Ive never seen somebody fall off a tower..... see what im >> saying? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:21 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> He's a witch, burn him. >> >> On 9/29/2016 12:03 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Say 4.4 lbs. (2 kG) 88 fps (26.83 m/s) >> >> >> >> 1/2 M V^2 so 1 * 26.83 * 26.83 = 718 joules >> >> >> >> 9mm pistol bullet muzzle energy is 519 joules >> >> >> >> That felt good to get my math on this morning... >> >> >> >> *From:* George Skorup >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:57 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question >> >> >> >> F=ma? I have no doubt a big ass drill bit going 60MPH could penetrate >> someone's skull. >> >> On 9/29/2016 11:52 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> Put the drill at 88fps and 35lbs. Cloth seat. >> >> >> >> On Sep 29, 2016 11:44 AM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Can't put more into it than it has to begin with. If the truck is going >> 88 fps, and runs into an impenetrable barrier (brick wall would be close), >> and "instantly" stopped. The drill bit "might" continue at that 88 fps. It >> can't go faster than that. >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 9/29/2016 9:39 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> Add in the G force of near instantaneous deceleration... >> >> >> >> On Sep 29, 2016 11:30 AM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That sounds like an urban myth. It would take near-ballistic speeds (~~ >> 600-1000 fps) to drive a drill bit like that. >> >> Driving a truck into a brick wall at 60 MPH, would only get you ~~ 88 fps. >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 9/29/2016 8:35 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> I didn't see it personally, but I'm told a guy here crashed an F-150 and >> the drill with 18" bit on it flew forward from the back of the cab and the >> drill bit poked right through the front seat. Missed him by inches. >> >> >> >> I imagine the seat slowed it down enough that it wouldn't have killed >> him, but still... >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Sent: 9/28/2016 7:11:46 PM >> >> Subject: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question >> >> >> >> Is there any legal or insurance requirement to have one of these? I hate >> them, and while I understand they are to prevent decapitation by a flying >> object from the cargo area, I can’t recall ever having such a flying object. >> >> >> >> I like having a rear window on the van for visibility, and even with a >> backup camera and sideview mirrors, being able to see out the back is nice. >> >> >> >> Are there other advantages to them? I guess the AC and heater might work >> better if isolated from the cargo space. I’ve seen claims it makes the >> cabin quieter, but anytime I’ve driven a van with a partition, there has >> been an annoying rattle from the door to the back. I could maybe see if >> you could put some shelving units up against the back of the partition. >> That might even make a van with dual sliding side doors viable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> >
