after the apocalypse, cockroaches and mccown tech is all that will be left On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just do not believe it. I personally knew a guy that was responsible > for collecting data out in the Pacific ocean (after atmospheric tests) > that went into some of those theories. > He said that it will only affect power lines and they can handle it. Fear > mongering. > > But if you believe in it, I have a solution. > > Just put my surge suppressors on everything and you will be OK. > > -----Original Message----- From: Robert > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? > > > Chuck, > I would have thought you have read "One Second After" A low yield > nuke can do a lot more damage at 500K feet than creating a smoking hole > in LA.. > > On 10/17/16 6:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> As long as his missiles keep having difficulty and his yields are low, >> he can’t do much. Wiping out a portion of LA for example might be the >> worst case scenario. And then of course they will be turned into a >> glowing smoking hole in the ground. I cannot imagine them taking that >> risk. >> >> *From:* Paul Stewart >> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 7:47 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >> >> North Korea scares the shit out of me … out of control dictator that is >> not in the right mind and has a nuclear arsenal at his disposal…. scary >> shit if you ask me… >> >> oh and has a major hate on for anything US related…. I can see a major >> pissing match coming (in some ways it’s already started) >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Russia is doing some saber rattling for sure. It is concerning. >>> Putin seems to be trying to take advantage of the lame duck period >>> somehow, who knows what he is up to. N. Korea also, saying they are >>> willing to launch a nuclear first strike. You’d think there would be >>> more coverage of the Russian threats, but all people care about is the >>> election reality show. >>> >>> Putin is pissed that Obama called him a regional power. Trump is >>> pissed that Obama made fun of him at the press dinner. Isn’t it nice >>> to have world leaders who use the powers of state to pursue their >>> personal grudges. >>> >>> Meanwhile in Julian Assange news: >>> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pamela-anderson-brings-w >>> ikileaks-julian-assange-a-vegan-lunch-and-conspiracy-theorie >>> s-bloom/ar-AAj2FYZ?li=BBmkt5R >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 12:43 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >>> >>> >>> I will look up the speech >>> >>> How do you feel about the implied "bracing for war" Russia seems to be >>> doing? >>> >>> The right (I do live in Alabama) seems to believe they are bracing for >>> war if Trump does not get elected. >>> >>> I have not heard what the left thinks since all they can talk about is >>> the Billy Bush trump tapes or women.... >>> >>> In fact I don't believe the media is covering anything....Not even us >>> firing on Yemen (I did not read that article on the internet I assume >>> we bombed A terrorist camp or something) >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >>> Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:29 AM >>> >>> Also, it seems this explains the nuclear deal Kerry negotiated with >>> Iran, basically trying to do what wasn’t done with Iraq. (Idiot Trump >>> doesn’t seem to realize Clinton isn’t still Sec. of State, but then he >>> lives in a fact free zone.) After years of sanctions, you have to get >>> some payoff as a result of those sanctions, apparently the deal was >>> the best our negotiating team could get. Not trying to argue yes or >>> no on that, just if you look back to the Iraq vote and Kerry’s speech, >>> you can understand why he took the approach he did with Iran. >>> >>> He has certainly worked his butt off on the diplomacy side even at the >>> risk of failure. Very different approach from Clinton, I think, who >>> seemed to be more of a delegator. Unfortunately his efforts on the >>> Israel/Palestine issue were a total failure, and Putin and Lavrov >>> totally played him for a fool on Syria. Well, and Obama too, remember >>> he was going to do the big “reset” with Russia. And Hillary was the >>> Russia hawk in the Obama administration. Makes me totally shake my >>> head at Trump wanting to “get along” with Russia. Why is no one >>> saying that sounds like weak Obama who tried to be Putin’s buddy and >>> was made to look like a fool. And no wonder Putin wants Trump to win, >>> since Hillary is hawkish on Russia. What a bizzaro world we live in, >>> where the Republican candidate has a bromance with Putin, and it’s the >>> Democratic candidate who wants to be tough on Russia? >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 12:10 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >>> >>> Then listen to the whole speech. >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 12:08 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >>> >>> >>> I remember very clearly the media covering how Saddam would not allow >>> inspectors in and how he was very uncooperative. >>> >>> In my opinion it is saddam's fault. Had he cooperated maybe we would >>> not have gone to war.... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >>> Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 12:03 AM >>> >>> I remember that very clearly. It was a war authorization vote. The >>> President told Congress he needed the authorization to strengthen his >>> hand when he went to the UN and allies and sought new sanctions to >>> force Iraq to submit to inspection and disarm, to show that the nation >>> was behind him, and that it was not a vote to go to war except as a >>> last resort. He basically framed it as a vote of confidence in him, >>> that he needed that vote to show the world he was serious and the >>> nation spoke with one voice, it made it very difficult for Congress >>> not to vote yes. Of course he didn’t follow through with his promises >>> and quickly went to war without exhausting all other avenues. >>> >>> I clearly remember listening to Sen. John Kerry’s speech on the floor >>> of the senate before the vote, laying this all out. And I remember >>> having a sick feeling that exactly what he said the President promised >>> not to do and warned him not to do, was nonetheless going to happen. >>> Whatever you think of John Kerry, this is a riveting speech. I found >>> a video of it online. It’s 50 minutes long, if you can’t spend that >>> much time, skip to around 33:00. >>> >>> https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4398929/sen-kerry-iraq-war-au >>> thorization-speech-9oct02 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller >>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:07 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >>> >>> >>> I remind you....congress had to vote on that. >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT does it really matter? >>> Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2016 10:50 PM >>> >>> >>> Well Bush decision to invade Iraq did affect my family.. My son who >>> proudly served in Iraq came back injured physically and mentally. He >>> is still under medical care ... We should have gone after Taliban in >>> Afghanistan and wiped them out along with poppie fields. Hussein was >>> a dictator I know but our reason to invade was based on weapons of >>> mass destruction which didn't exist. We messed up the status quo, >>> left and gave ISIS an opening... If you study history of region it has >>> shown no outside nation has ever been able to conquer area for very >>> long.. These folks have been at war since forever and we got caught >>> up in it. When you travel on plane you are affected... Large public >>> events are different now because threat of terrorism exists. So we >>> are all affected some way. The times, they are a changin >>> >>> >>> On Oct 16, 2016 9:21 PM, "Bruce Robertson" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Exactly right. Who is president has some effect, but not game >>>> changing. Most people in the country are middle of the road, and the >>>> progress of the country reflects that. The pendulum swings back and >>>> forth, but always reverts to the mean. >>>> >>>> On 10/16/16 8:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>>> Congress makes and changes law. Supreme Court makes a few important >>>>> decisions. Regulators are who really run the country. >>>>> >>>>> Does it really matter who the president is? >>>>> What did Obama do? Encouraged the ACA. Dropped the ball in Syria. >>>>> But how did he affect me, my degree of wealth, my amount of spare >>>>> time? >>>>> >>>>> Ditto Bush. They affect foreign policy. They have the ability to >>>>> really mess up other people’s lives in other countries, but do they >>>>> really have much effect on me? >>>>> >>>>> Granted, altering the make up of the Supreme Court changes things >>>>> like can I choose to marry a dude or do I have to sell wedding cakes >>>>> to gays. But that really does not touch me. My granddaughter >>>>> having to cope with dudes in the bathroom at school hits a bit >>>>> closer to home, but I trust congress will eventually settle on >>>>> something a bit more common sense. >>>>> >>>>> I guess I am trying to convince myself that a president really >>>>> doesn’t do much here at home. Congress does. The court does. >>>>> Bureaucracies do. >>>>> >>>>> Now, if the president could get a whole truckload of cheese >>>>> delivered to the Whitehouse and give it out to anyone that drops in >>>>> for a visit, then we are talking about a real impact... >>>>> >>>>> http://history1800s.about.com/od/19th-Century-Presidents/fl/ >>>>> Andrew-Jacksons-Big-Block-of-Cheese.htm >>>>> >>>>> !DSPAM:2,580442b817511656011445! >>>>> >>>> >> > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
