It may be amplifiers are the reason for the 3.65SM heatsink and a contributor to the higher pricing. There's a variety of COTS high-power 2ghz and 5ghz 256-QAM-capable amplifier ICs that I've seen inside various WISP products, it could be there is nothing easily available for 3.65 so that is a cause of the additional hardware/cooling and partially cost.
On Nov 21, 2016 6:48 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess calculation is different for 3.65. They sell much less and in 5GHz > there are more competitors. > > I dont believe UBNT/Cambium does something LTE Based. This SIM-Stuff and > complicated infrastructure would hinder low cost. Wasn't there any > licensing the vendor has to pay for patents? UBNT want to target their > airmax price range. > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Ken Hohhof > > Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2016 12:37 > > An: [email protected] > > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PMP450 3.65 pricing? > > > > Take a look at AF-3x pricing vs AF-5x, parts cost is probably the same > but > > Ubiquiti prices it at double. Also, I wouldn't expect any vendor to > rush a new > > 3.65 product to market unless it is fully CBRS compatible and probably > LTE > > based. > > > > Best we could probably hope for is Cambium does some kind of HW refresh > > based on the new wideband SM and brings the price down. It's not > obvious to > > me why the 3.65 SM is different from the 5 GHz SM, with the heatsink > fins and > > different LEDs, like it is based on the 450i design or something. It's > not like you > > are going to run 40 MHz channels in 3.65. There's something going on > that's > > not apparent to the casual observer. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt > > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:59 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PMP450 3.65 pricing? > > > > I think there is 0,1% possibility this will happen. > > As I understand the parameters of both systems are quite different. It > would > > need a lot of work to make them GPS-Compatible. Think you are Pera and > have > > the choice of bringing this to market 2017 or make compatibility and > bring this > > to market 2018. Guess what ... > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Josh Reynolds > > > Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2016 09:13 > > > An: [email protected] > > > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PMP450 3.65 pricing? > > > > > > "I just hope that Ubiquiti can copy the exact timing parameters from > > > the Cambium products" > > > > > > Good luck with that. > > > > > > I understand it could be a good way to transition, don't get me wrong, > > > I just don't (A) think they really care, for whatever reason and (B) > > > built their own system from the ground up with what they wanted to > > maximize performance. > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Kurt Fankhauser > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I just hope that Ubiquiti can copy the exact timing parameters from > > > > the Cambium products so we can mix and match Cambium/UBNT PtMP in > > > the > > > > same frequency band in the network. Im getting so much 450 gear up > > > > that it just has to be synced because its so dense, I wont' be able > > > > to coordinate throwing some other brand of AP in their and having to > > > > watch frequency usage even closer. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Jon Langeler > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Yeah can't wait > > > >> > > > >> Jon Langeler > > > >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Nov 20, 2016, at 11:09 PM, Kurt Fankhauser > > > >> <[email protected]> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> No I'm not good with paying that price for it but what else are we > > > >> supposed to do? That's still the cheapeast 3.65ghz solution out > right now. > > > >> Now its going to get real interesting if Airfiber PtMP comes out > > > >> with some 3.65ghz gear.... > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Depends on what you mean by "good". > > > >>> > > > >>> Actually we buy the 20M SM at around $315 and for special > > > >>> occasions the uncapped integral panel at around $500 including the > > > >>> tilt bracket, so worse than your $275. > > > >>> > > > >>> They are certainly more expensive than we'd like, but you do what > > > >>> you gotta do. We do have a lot of 3.65 Lite APs so we save a > > > >>> little at that end. > > > >>> > > > >>> If you go through a lot of them, I'd work with your reseller to > > > >>> negotiate a volume discount from Cambium. Like commit to 200 SMs > > > >>> over the next year, see if they'll give you a better price, and > > > >>> then take deliveries 50 at a time. It won't be 50% off, but > > > >>> you'll probably get something. On the other hand, if you're like > > > >>> me and most of your volume is 5 GHz, then just open your wallet, > > > >>> unless you want to do LTE. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler > > > >>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:25 PM > > > >>> To: [email protected] > > > >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium PMP450 3.65 pricing? > > > >>> > > > >>> Is everyone good with paying $275 for cambium 10Mbps SMs ? Or has > > > >>> everyone just jumped ship? > > > >>> > > > >>> Jon Langeler > > > >>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
