I’d have to double check the exact amount but here in Ontario, the power you 
sell back at something like 90 cents Kwh … very inflated to encourage more 
people to generate their own power and sell it back to the “system” - in my 
opinion it’s driven the price of purchasing/consuming power artificially high 
as well … real problem here….



> On Mar 20, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> My solar system stores energy in the form of gravity potential...
> 
> On 3/20/17 5:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> My solar system stores excess energy as credit on the bill.  So I can
>> use it anytime of day.
>> 
>> *From:* Rory Conaway
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:21 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>> 
>> 
>> Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special program for electric car
>> owners.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Most of my wife’s driving is 70mph or less and more city driving than
>> what you probably do.  We probably charge 50 miles per day average and
>> the car gets about 3.5-4m per kWh.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Our worst rate is about 10.1 cents per kWh on peak during the week.
>> Solar doesn’t help us in charging since the care is gone at 7:30am and
>> doesn’t get home until after 6:30.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:50 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am getting about 1 mile per percent.  I never trust that display, I
>> always use battery percentage.  But I drive 80 mph everywhere, freeway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am solar powered at my house and other people pay for the power other
>> places I charge.   So there is no cost of energy for me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But if I was paying, it would be about 12 cents per kWh  (it can go as
>> low as 8 cents depending on how you do  it).  So $3.60/charge or 3 cents
>> per mile.  (2.4 cents per mile at the lower tariff)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hyundai was getting 34 mpg.  So 7.4 cents per mile.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*Rory Conaway
>> 
>> *Sent:*Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:57 PM
>> 
>> *To:*[email protected]
>> 
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So after 2 days with the Leaf and the 30Kw battery, our estimate is that
>> it’s actually underrated or they have found other ways to save power.  I
>> definitely notice more aggressive regen control on eco mode but we are
>> seeing 120-125 mile on the display even after using 5-8% of the
>> battery.   Considering you can drive one for about $4K a year, almost no
>> maintenance, and about ¼ of the cost of gas, it’s got to be one of the
>> best values out there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:08 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I find it interesting they can upgrade a battery with software...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*[email protected]
>> 
>> *Sent:*Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM
>> 
>> *To:*[email protected]
>> 
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this
>> will hurt sales? They already did this to the Model X.
>> 
>> Or are they hoping the Model 3 will fill the gap?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting note from Tesla this morning:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Customers who still want the opportunity to own a 60 kWh Model S will
>> have until April 16, 2017 to place their order. Any 60 kWh Model S will
>> have the ability to upgrade their battery to 75 kWh via an over the air
>> update.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 


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