It's not a problem because they also sell cisco branded optics.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Huawei's only allows Cisco-branded optics. They couldn't figure out how to
> edit that part of the code out.
>
> Joking, joking, jeez....
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> *From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:49:21 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>
> I assume ZTE doesn't care about SFP branding?
>
> On 3/21/2017 7:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> It's not open standard.  They key their optics like calix.
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:11 AM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Seriously though... Alphion obviously doesn't have the level of software
>> toys/tools that Calix does obviously, but when the cost is like 1/8th, you
>> can spend that money on contractors and OLTs and ONTs and get way more subs
>> installed much faster - and it's something that is still based on open
>> standards.
>>
>> That's a hard business proposition to ignore.
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2017 6:59 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> haha… yeah fair enough ;)
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> It can be different when you're the one paying for it :)
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting …. do they work ok?
>>
>> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more
>> than that.  I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk
>> in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing.
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power
>> Supply for $3200.  ONT's for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 depending on the
>> split.  Check Alibaba.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in
>> another OLT if needed.
>>
>> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1.
>> The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.
>>
>>
>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.
>>
>>
>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
>>
>>
>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might
>> cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.
>>
>>
>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still
>> supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much
>> on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards
>> compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But
>> again, lots of power is required.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>
>>
>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
>> wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  All
>> the splitters etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5
>> Mbps symmetrical all at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could
>> sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Carlos Alcantar
>>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>
>>
>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this
>> year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Carlos Alcantar
>>
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>>
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>> http://www.race.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Af <[email protected]> on behalf of George Skorup <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>
>>
>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones
>> and watching Netflix.
>>
>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the
>> utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another
>> switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The
>> network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just
>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports.
>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god,
>> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.
>>
>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of
>> rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want
>> more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll
>> build it.
>>
>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Alphion does, yes.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> What kind of costs are you talking?
>> Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?
>>
>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04,
>> 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG]
>> Small-scale GPON
>>
>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time
>> around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the
>> AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small
>> deployments?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
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