No, I've got multiple brands working.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:49 PM George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
wrote:

> I assume ZTE doesn't care about SFP branding?
>
>
> On 3/21/2017 7:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> It's not open standard.  They key their optics like calix.
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:11 AM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
> Seriously though... Alphion obviously doesn't have the level of software
> toys/tools that Calix does obviously, but when the cost is like 1/8th, you
> can spend that money on contractors and OLTs and ONTs and get way more subs
> installed much faster - and it's something that is still based on open
> standards.
>
> That's a hard business proposition to ignore.
>
> On Mar 6, 2017 6:59 PM, "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
>
> haha… yeah fair enough ;)
>
> On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> It can be different when you're the one paying for it :)
>
> On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
>
> Interesting …. do they work ok?
>
> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more
> than that.  I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk
> in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing.
>
> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>
> I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power
> Supply for $3200.  ONT's for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 depending on the
> split.  Check Alibaba.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in
> another OLT if needed.
>
> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1.
> The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
>
> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
>
> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.
>
>
> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.
>
>
> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
>
>
> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause
> some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.
>
>
> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still
> supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much
> on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards
> compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But
> again, lots of power is required.
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>
>
> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
> wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  All
> the splitters etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5
> Mbps symmetrical all at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could
> sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.
>
>
> *From:* Carlos Alcantar
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>
>
> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year
> giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
>
>
>
> Carlos Alcantar
>
> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>
> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>
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>
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>
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup <
> george.sko...@cbcast.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>
>
> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones
> and watching Netflix.
>
> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the
> utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another
> switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The
> network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just
> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports.
> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god,
> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.
>
> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of
> rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want
> more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll
> build it.
>
> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> Alphion does, yes.
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> What kind of costs are you talking?
> Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?
>
> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04,
> 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG]
> Small-scale GPON
>
> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time
> around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the
> AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small
> deployments?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> --
Regards,
Chuck

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