some folks were saying how great Alphion is .. why are you selling?
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am replacing my Alphion shelf if anyone is interested in it and ~30 ONTs. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:07 AM Chuck Hogg <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > No, I've got multiple brands working. > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:49 PM George Skorup <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I assume ZTE doesn't care about SFP branding? > > > On 3/21/2017 7:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> It's not open standard. They key their optics like calix. > >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:11 AM Josh Reynolds <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Seriously though... Alphion obviously doesn't have the level of software >> toys/tools that Calix does obviously, but when the cost is like 1/8th, you >> can spend that money on contractors and OLTs and ONTs and get way more subs >> installed much faster - and it's something that is still based on open >> standards. >> >> That's a hard business proposition to ignore. >> >> On Mar 6, 2017 6:59 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> haha… yeah fair enough ;) >>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >> >>> It can be different when you're the one paying for it :) >> >>> On Mar 6, 2017 5:13 PM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> Interesting …. do they work ok? >>> >>> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more >>> than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from China and it was total junk >>> in my opinion - some people like it .. not my thing. >>> >> >>>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power >>>> Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25. PLC's from $2-10 depending on the >>>> split. Check Alibaba. >> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>>> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in >>>> another OLT if needed. >>>> >>>> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. >>>>> The company I just got off the ground did 16x1. >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might >>>>> cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still >>>>> supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that >>>>> much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially >>>>> backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like >>>>> mine. But again, lots of power is required. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple >>>>> wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change. >>>>> All the splitters etc still work. That will give everyone on the PON >>>>> 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you >>>>> could sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of >>>>> headroom. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Carlos Alcantar >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM >>>>> >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this >>>>> year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Carlos Alcantar >>>>> >>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member >>>>> >>>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 >>>>> >>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <tel:%28415%29%20376-3314> / [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> / http://www.race.com <http://www.race.com/> >>>>> >>>>> From: Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf >>>>> of George Skorup <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones >>>>> and watching Netflix. >>>>> >>>>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the >>>>> utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up >>>>> another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every >>>>> night. The network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. >>>>> They just don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k >>>>> ports. There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of >>>>> god, lets fix this now! We'll see what happens. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of >>>>> rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want >>>>> more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll >>>>> build it. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Alphion does, yes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What kind of costs are you talking? >>>>> Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports? >>>>> >>>>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low. >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04, >>>>> 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>> >>>>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time >>>>> around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the >>>>> AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for >>>>> small deployments? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > >> -- >> Regards, >> Chuck > > -- > Regards, > Chuck > -- > Regards, > Chuck
