Word..to your mother if you are so inclined.
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:56 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > phat > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:34 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > Like it's Fly? I still use bitchin > > Jaime Solorza > > On Jul 21, 2017 8:24 AM, "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> What happened to gat, that was so 90s >> >> On Jul 21, 2017 9:08 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Gangster movies called them a “piece”. >>> >>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:05 AM >>> *To:* Animal Farm >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >>> Mitigation. >>> >>> Quete is slang for hand gun around here >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:03 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I get a real kick out of 'language' it's differences and word usage by >>>> folks from different areas ! >>>> (I learned Queen's English, as such folks often pointed out to me that >>>> my choice of words in conversation were sometimes not common). >>>> >>>> Love how in this thread folks have refereed to their "side arm" as Gun, >>>> Revolver, Luger, Heat, and Pistol !.... >>>> You all are now making me think that I need to add the SuperSoaker as a >>>> standard item in my toolbag ! >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:11:47 PM >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >>>> Mitigation. >>>> >>>> > It's a scary feeling when you get to a site that is in the middle of >>>> > nowhere late at night to find out it's been vandalized and not know >>>> > where the culprit is. I've started taking a pistol on my late night >>>> > service calls if I am alone and almost always have a mag light with me >>>> > day or night. >>>> > >>>> > Robert Haas wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> I carry afterhours when I am responding by myself – some areas I will >>>> >> not respond to after hours alone or otherwise. I do not carry during >>>> >> normal business hours. >>>> >> >>>> >> For our techs though, they are told to leave the area immediately if >>>> >> there is a significant threat, then to call the office or police. >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> >>>> >> We’ve had 2 incidents of people pulling weapons on our techs >>>> recently. >>>> >> >>>> >> One was a scheduled site survey. CSR’s called and spoke with the lady >>>> >> and gave her a time frame to expect the tech. Tech showed up, knocked >>>> >> on the door, rang the doorbell etc. and there was no response. He >>>> >> began doing the survey and was standing on the extension ladder when >>>> >> the lady came out and started screaming at him and pointing a >>>> revolver >>>> >> at him. The tech ran up the ladder and over the peak of the house. >>>> She >>>> >> came around the other side of the house and screamed at him to get >>>> off >>>> >> the roof – he got down and loaded his ladder up and left. >>>> >> >>>> >> She called complaining that we showed up un-announced and our >>>> vehicles >>>> >> aren’t marked – both of which are false – we also wear company shirts >>>> >> with our logo. >>>> >> >>>> >> The best part was her husband called up later wanting to know if it >>>> >> passed or not and then got pissed when we told him that we refused to >>>> >> service his location.. >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> >>>> >> The other we had a tech out on a service call. The house’s eves were >>>> >> rotten and the J-arm and radio had fallen off the eve. Tech sent me >>>> >> pics of the house which was pretty much falling in on itself. I told >>>> >> the tech to speak to the homeowner about putting a 4x4 post down at >>>> >> the corner of the house so we could re-attach the radio but that we >>>> >> were not going to be able to mount the radio back on the house due to >>>> >> its condition. Homeowner blows up goes inside and comes back out with >>>> >> a shotgun and tells the tech to take the equipment otherwise he was >>>> >> going to blow his head off. >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> >>>> >> I’ve personally have had people walk up on me while working at a site >>>> >> in the early morning hours like at 1-2am. Nothing came of them – they >>>> >> were just intoxicated out wandering I guess. >>>> >> >>>> >> I also, completely on accident, hit a guy with a half full 44 ounce >>>> >> soda who was digging in one of our dumpsters at 3am. I was working >>>> >> late and was finished and cleaning up, the dumpster is probably 15’ >>>> or >>>> >> so from the door of the shelter. I walked out and took a couple of >>>> >> steps towards my van and threw my soda into the dumpster. Unbeknown >>>> to >>>> >> me he was digging through the dumpster and I nailed him right in the >>>> >> head and the cup burst on him. He was slightly peeved and started >>>> >> towards me. All I could think to grab was my mag light out of the >>>> >> passenger seat of my van. I told him if he got any closer that we >>>> were >>>> >> going to find out how well the flashlight held up being used like a >>>> bat. >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> >>>> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:08 PM >>>> >> *To:* [email protected] >>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >>>> >> Mitigation. >>>> >> >>>> >> alot is dependent on area. Urban, most definitely allow for self >>>> >> defense weapons withing local applicable law. If you have a 2A guy >>>> who >>>> >> gets harmed and you have a policy disallowing self defense, then >>>> thats >>>> >> a liability, then again so is a yahoo with a gun in your truck. >>>> >> >>>> >> We go into too many banks and schools, and other prohibited location, >>>> >> i would not carry at work >>>> >> >>>> >> I do however always have a 36 inch 1 7/8 water pipe for discussions >>>> >> and conflict resolution >>>> >> >>>> >> Training itself is another liability, say you offer self defense >>>> >> training to your guys, and one of them beats some mope to a pulp, you >>>> >> trained him to do that, even though its well outside the scope of a >>>> >> self defense class. Then again, dont train him and have a mope beat >>>> >> him to a pulp, theres liability in that too. >>>> >> >>>> >> I have a tech right now who may spar with a customer we have to go >>>> out >>>> >> to over the customers recent antics. Im trying to get the boss to get >>>> >> him a gladiator outfit and helmet. Nobody will start stuff with a guy >>>> >> dressed like a gladiator, its best to just eliminate the issue before >>>> >> it even starts. >>>> >> >>>> >> Get everybody a gladiator helmet, maybe let them carry a cudgel, or a >>>> >> shillelagh >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:43 PM, <[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Gun control is pretty political... >>>> >> >>>> >> Packing a weapon gives me options I am not sure I want myself to >>>> >> have. >>>> >> >>>> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >> >>>> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM >>>> >> >>>> >> *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >>>> >> Mitigation. >>>> >> >>>> >> LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did >>>> (with >>>> >> making the video). >>>> >> >>>> >> And so you are in agreement that :- >>>> >> >>>> >> "If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to >>>> >> defend themselves" >>>> >> >>>> >> Would not be the better, smarter or wiser way of dealing with >>>> such ! >>>> >> >>>> >> :) >>>> >> >>>> >> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> >> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 <305%20663%205518> >>>> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>x 232 >>>> >> >>>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 or >>>> >> Email: [email protected] <mailto:Support@Snappytelecom. >>>> net> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ------------ >>>> >> >>>> >> *From: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:06:01 PM >>>> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / >>>> >> Confrontation Mitigation. >>>> >> >>>> >> Call cops. >>>> >> >>>> >> Duck for cover. >>>> >> >>>> >> Administer first aid if you can do so without getting killed. >>>> >> >>>> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >> >>>> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:05 AM >>>> >> >>>> >> *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / >>>> >> Confrontation Mitigation. >>>> >> >>>> >> Let's turn this into a productive conversation, with >>>> relevance... >>>> >> >>>> >> We all have crews working outside... so what should be the >>>> SOP >>>> >> for them, under such circumstances ? >>>> >> >>>> >> What type of training do we need to provide to assure >>>> >> everyone's safety ? >>>> >> >>>> >> What should be the reactions expected from the OSP Crew ? >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards. >>>> >> >>>> >> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> >> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >>>> >> >>>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 >>>> or >>>> >> Email: [email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ------------ >>>> >> >>>> >> *From: *"Paul McCall" <[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> >> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:59:34 AM >>>> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T >>>> bucket >>>> >> trucks >>>> >> >>>> >> YES, PLEASE keep this the pleasant WISP business related >>>> >> site that we have re-established. We all have opinions, >>>> but… >>>> >> >>>> >> Paul 😊 >>>> >> >>>> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of >>>> >> *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:40 AM >>>> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T >>>> bucket >>>> >> trucks >>>> >> >>>> >> Disparity in how cops treat perps based on skin color is >>>> >> very political, like global warming, evolution and the >>>> >> flat earth. >>>> >> >>>> >> All of which should be discussed on other forums as they >>>> >> have nothing to do with operating a WISP. >>>> >> >>>> >> We lost Ken Hohof over this kind of thing last fall. >>>> >> >>>> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >> >>>> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:34 AM >>>> >> >>>> >> *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket >>>> >> trucks >>>> >> >>>> >> one last question... >>>> >> >>>> >> >> for this political BS >>>> >> >>>> >> Please do tell me how the Hell, what I posted and said is >>>> >> "political" ? >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards. >>>> >> >>>> >> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> >> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >>>> >> >>>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Opti >>>> on >>>> >> 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> >> >>>> >> *From: *"Dustin Jurman" <[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> >> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:03:56 AM >>>> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T >>>> >> bucket trucks >>>> >> >>>> >> That’s just wrong Faisal to perpetuate this on this >>>> >> list. There were a lot of great things you could >>>> have >>>> >> stated here: >>>> >> >>>> >> Was AT&T on the guys property without permission? >>>> >> >>>> >> Safety of the guy in the bucket while someone is >>>> >> shooting the tires out. >>>> >> >>>> >> Safety of the guy in the bucket while engine/controls >>>> >> get shot out >>>> >> >>>> >> How the ground guys handled the situation >>>> >> >>>> >> If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the >>>> >> right to defend themselves >>>> >> >>>> >> You get where I’m going but this list has no place >>>> for >>>> >> this political BS. The sad part is you sent this to >>>> >> the list. >>>> >> >>>> >> Dustin >>>> >> >>>> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf >>>> Of >>>> >> *Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:18 AM >>>> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. >>>> >> AT&T bucket trucks >>>> >> >>>> >> Welcome to Miami >>>> >> >>>> >> http://wsvn.com/news/local/eld >>>> erly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/ >>>> >> >>>> >> ----------------- >>>> >> >>>> >> Here is the sad reality.... >>>> >> >>>> >> Since this was an elderly white male, he was >>>> arrested.. >>>> >> >>>> >> If this was a Brown or Black (or a younger) Person >>>> >> most likely would have been shot on sight by the >>>> Cops. >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards. >>>> >> >>>> >> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> >> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >>>> >> >>>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 >>>> >> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 or Email: >>>> >> [email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> >> >>>> >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> >> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:05:33 AM >>>> >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. >>>> >> AT&T bucket trucks >>>> >> >>>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYUJa3rsEU >>>> >> >>>> >> Happened today. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_sou >>>> rce=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>> >> Virus-free. www.avg.com >>>> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_sou >>>> rce=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>
