Like it's Fly? I still use bitchin Jaime Solorza
On Jul 21, 2017 8:24 AM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > What happened to gat, that was so 90s > > On Jul 21, 2017 9:08 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Gangster movies called them a “piece”. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:05 AM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >> Mitigation. >> >> Quete is slang for hand gun around here >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:03 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I get a real kick out of 'language' it's differences and word usage by >>> folks from different areas ! >>> (I learned Queen's English, as such folks often pointed out to me that >>> my choice of words in conversation were sometimes not common). >>> >>> Love how in this thread folks have refereed to their "side arm" as Gun, >>> Revolver, Luger, Heat, and Pistol !.... >>> You all are now making me think that I need to add the SuperSoaker as a >>> standard item in my toolbag ! >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>> > To: af@afmug.com >>> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:11:47 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >>> Mitigation. >>> >>> > It's a scary feeling when you get to a site that is in the middle of >>> > nowhere late at night to find out it's been vandalized and not know >>> > where the culprit is. I've started taking a pistol on my late night >>> > service calls if I am alone and almost always have a mag light with me >>> > day or night. >>> > >>> > Robert Haas wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I carry afterhours when I am responding by myself – some areas I will >>> >> not respond to after hours alone or otherwise. I do not carry during >>> >> normal business hours. >>> >> >>> >> For our techs though, they are told to leave the area immediately if >>> >> there is a significant threat, then to call the office or police. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> We’ve had 2 incidents of people pulling weapons on our techs recently. >>> >> >>> >> One was a scheduled site survey. CSR’s called and spoke with the lady >>> >> and gave her a time frame to expect the tech. Tech showed up, knocked >>> >> on the door, rang the doorbell etc. and there was no response. He >>> >> began doing the survey and was standing on the extension ladder when >>> >> the lady came out and started screaming at him and pointing a revolver >>> >> at him. The tech ran up the ladder and over the peak of the house. She >>> >> came around the other side of the house and screamed at him to get off >>> >> the roof – he got down and loaded his ladder up and left. >>> >> >>> >> She called complaining that we showed up un-announced and our vehicles >>> >> aren’t marked – both of which are false – we also wear company shirts >>> >> with our logo. >>> >> >>> >> The best part was her husband called up later wanting to know if it >>> >> passed or not and then got pissed when we told him that we refused to >>> >> service his location.. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> The other we had a tech out on a service call. The house’s eves were >>> >> rotten and the J-arm and radio had fallen off the eve. Tech sent me >>> >> pics of the house which was pretty much falling in on itself. I told >>> >> the tech to speak to the homeowner about putting a 4x4 post down at >>> >> the corner of the house so we could re-attach the radio but that we >>> >> were not going to be able to mount the radio back on the house due to >>> >> its condition. Homeowner blows up goes inside and comes back out with >>> >> a shotgun and tells the tech to take the equipment otherwise he was >>> >> going to blow his head off. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> I’ve personally have had people walk up on me while working at a site >>> >> in the early morning hours like at 1-2am. Nothing came of them – they >>> >> were just intoxicated out wandering I guess. >>> >> >>> >> I also, completely on accident, hit a guy with a half full 44 ounce >>> >> soda who was digging in one of our dumpsters at 3am. I was working >>> >> late and was finished and cleaning up, the dumpster is probably 15’ or >>> >> so from the door of the shelter. I walked out and took a couple of >>> >> steps towards my van and threw my soda into the dumpster. Unbeknown to >>> >> me he was digging through the dumpster and I nailed him right in the >>> >> head and the cup burst on him. He was slightly peeved and started >>> >> towards me. All I could think to grab was my mag light out of the >>> >> passenger seat of my van. I told him if he got any closer that we were >>> >> going to find out how well the flashlight held up being used like a >>> bat. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:08 PM >>> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >>> >> Mitigation. >>> >> >>> >> alot is dependent on area. Urban, most definitely allow for self >>> >> defense weapons withing local applicable law. If you have a 2A guy who >>> >> gets harmed and you have a policy disallowing self defense, then thats >>> >> a liability, then again so is a yahoo with a gun in your truck. >>> >> >>> >> We go into too many banks and schools, and other prohibited location, >>> >> i would not carry at work >>> >> >>> >> I do however always have a 36 inch 1 7/8 water pipe for discussions >>> >> and conflict resolution >>> >> >>> >> Training itself is another liability, say you offer self defense >>> >> training to your guys, and one of them beats some mope to a pulp, you >>> >> trained him to do that, even though its well outside the scope of a >>> >> self defense class. Then again, dont train him and have a mope beat >>> >> him to a pulp, theres liability in that too. >>> >> >>> >> I have a tech right now who may spar with a customer we have to go out >>> >> to over the customers recent antics. Im trying to get the boss to get >>> >> him a gladiator outfit and helmet. Nobody will start stuff with a guy >>> >> dressed like a gladiator, its best to just eliminate the issue before >>> >> it even starts. >>> >> >>> >> Get everybody a gladiator helmet, maybe let them carry a cudgel, or a >>> >> shillelagh >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com >>> >> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Gun control is pretty political... >>> >> >>> >> Packing a weapon gives me options I am not sure I want myself to >>> >> have. >>> >> >>> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >>> >> >>> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:40 AM >>> >> >>> >> *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> >>> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation >>> >> Mitigation. >>> >> >>> >> LOL ! and I believe that is exactly what the Ground Crew did (with >>> >> making the video). >>> >> >>> >> And so you are in agreement that :- >>> >> >>> >> "If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to >>> >> defend themselves" >>> >> >>> >> Would not be the better, smarter or wiser way of dealing with >>> such ! >>> >> >>> >> :) >>> >> >>> >> Faisal Imtiaz >>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> >> Miami, FL 33155 >>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>x 232 >>> >> >>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 or >>> >> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:Support@Snappytelecom. >>> net> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------ >>> >> >>> >> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >>> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:06:01 PM >>> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / >>> >> Confrontation Mitigation. >>> >> >>> >> Call cops. >>> >> >>> >> Duck for cover. >>> >> >>> >> Administer first aid if you can do so without getting killed. >>> >> >>> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >>> >> >>> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:05 AM >>> >> >>> >> *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> >>> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / >>> >> Confrontation Mitigation. >>> >> >>> >> Let's turn this into a productive conversation, with >>> relevance... >>> >> >>> >> We all have crews working outside... so what should be the SOP >>> >> for them, under such circumstances ? >>> >> >>> >> What type of training do we need to provide to assure >>> >> everyone's safety ? >>> >> >>> >> What should be the reactions expected from the OSP Crew ? >>> >> >>> >> Regards. >>> >> >>> >> Faisal Imtiaz >>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> >> Miami, FL 33155 >>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >>> >> >>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 >>> or >>> >> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------ >>> >> >>> >> *From: *"Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net >>> >> <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> >>> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:59:34 AM >>> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket >>> >> trucks >>> >> >>> >> YES, PLEASE keep this the pleasant WISP business related >>> >> site that we have re-established. We all have opinions, >>> but… >>> >> >>> >> Paul 😊 >>> >> >>> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>> >> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of >>> >> *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:40 AM >>> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket >>> >> trucks >>> >> >>> >> Disparity in how cops treat perps based on skin color is >>> >> very political, like global warming, evolution and the >>> >> flat earth. >>> >> >>> >> All of which should be discussed on other forums as they >>> >> have nothing to do with operating a WISP. >>> >> >>> >> We lost Ken Hohof over this kind of thing last fall. >>> >> >>> >> *From:*Faisal Imtiaz >>> >> >>> >> *Sent:*Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:34 AM >>> >> >>> >> *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> >>> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket >>> >> trucks >>> >> >>> >> one last question... >>> >> >>> >> >> for this political BS >>> >> >>> >> Please do tell me how the Hell, what I posted and said is >>> >> "political" ? >>> >> >>> >> Regards. >>> >> >>> >> Faisal Imtiaz >>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> >> Miami, FL 33155 >>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >>> >> >>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option >>> >> 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> >> >>> >> *From: *"Dustin Jurman" <dus...@rseng.net >>> >> <mailto:dus...@rseng.net>> >>> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:03:56 AM >>> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T >>> >> bucket trucks >>> >> >>> >> That’s just wrong Faisal to perpetuate this on this >>> >> list. There were a lot of great things you could have >>> >> stated here: >>> >> >>> >> Was AT&T on the guys property without permission? >>> >> >>> >> Safety of the guy in the bucket while someone is >>> >> shooting the tires out. >>> >> >>> >> Safety of the guy in the bucket while engine/controls >>> >> get shot out >>> >> >>> >> How the ground guys handled the situation >>> >> >>> >> If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the >>> >> right to defend themselves >>> >> >>> >> You get where I’m going but this list has no place for >>> >> this political BS. The sad part is you sent this to >>> >> the list. >>> >> >>> >> Dustin >>> >> >>> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of >>> >> *Faisal Imtiaz >>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:18 AM >>> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. >>> >> AT&T bucket trucks >>> >> >>> >> Welcome to Miami >>> >> >>> >> http://wsvn.com/news/local/eld >>> erly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/ >>> >> >>> >> ----------------- >>> >> >>> >> Here is the sad reality.... >>> >> >>> >> Since this was an elderly white male, he was >>> arrested.. >>> >> >>> >> If this was a Brown or Black (or a younger) Person >>> >> most likely would have been shot on sight by the Cops. >>> >> >>> >> Regards. >>> >> >>> >> Faisal Imtiaz >>> >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> >> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> >> Miami, FL 33155 >>> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> >>> >> >>> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 >>> >> <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 or Email: >>> >> supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> >> >>> >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com >>> >> <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> >>> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:05:33 AM >>> >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. >>> >> AT&T bucket trucks >>> >> >>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYUJa3rsEU >>> >> >>> >> Happened today. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_sou >>> rce=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>> >> Virus-free. www.avg.com >>> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_sou >>> rce=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>
