Wow Ye a Man of Many Talents .. 

Spoken Word be one of them I would have thought naught ! 

The Big C M hath spoken... so let this thread be naught ! 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:56:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

> You got it:
> Posts of snark, posts so cussed
> full of butt hurt, bitches not just
> I scatter these posts, these posts of rage
> take thine ignorant friend, make him age
> I see thine missives before me now
> I trash them, delete them, filter them down
> With these keystrokes I now do pwn
> Make thine mouse balls turn to stone
> With this hex I curse this thread
> further thoughts - pain in head
> So mote it be!
> From: Mitch Koep
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 5:38 PM
> To: af@afmug.com ; Faisal Imtiaz
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
> Will somebody PLEASE kill this string?????
> LOL it will go on and on forever
> Mitch
> On 8/6/2017 3:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Are you prepared to give your customers a 'Tour of the Facilities?'
> We normally like to have a tour of the facilities before we engage for 
> service.
> We also have 'informal' colo facilities, for which we highly encourage 
> customers
> to visit before deciding to utilize.
> How does this 'relate' to a pictures of racks and cables ? which could be
> anywhere...
> BWT.... in case you all have not seen the large posters from Equinix.... they
> are using a beautiful picture of high rises in Dubai... should we be offended
> that are they using an awesome picture of high-rises from a foreign country
> when they are a US Based company ?
> Dude, get over it .. .there is a fine line in advertising.... and everyone
> dresses up for the formal presentation .... So What ?
> :)
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Matt Hoppes" mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:03:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
> So let me throw this out. I advertise a colo facility with generator backup.
> Post pictures like this.
> Actual facility is a back room in an office with racks from Lowe's and a roll
> out generator we plug in with extension cords.
> At what point is this a problem?
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> Pre-patch a bunch of stuff into pre-populated SFPs and when orders are
> submitted, the data center's cross connect crew does all the work. No need to
> visit the facility regularly. :-)
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> The Brothers WISP
> From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:35:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
> I'm not sure IX employees ever really work in the MMR, rarely in the data 
> center
> at all. Once a month? Once every other month?
> Depends on the IX (as I get off topic here) … some of them are daily in MMR’s.
> As for DC’s themselves, I can speak personally about one IX in particular 
> where
> it’s 2-3 times a week I’d estimate and another one that is manned within the 
> DC
> 24x7.
> An MMR not maintained by volunteers, but the paid building management. No 
> one's
> volunteered blood, sweat and tears went into it. Someone paid to do it was.
> True … but lots of volunteers from IX’s sometimes have access to the MMR’s to 
> do
> their work. It varies of course… quite a number of IX’s use colo providers 
> whom
> are paid to do that MMR work but that’s not alway the case ….
> Anyways - moot points here and I’m dropping from the conversation as probably
> not helping here :)
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> The Brothers WISP
> From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 6:56:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
> I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in
> question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more
> accurate). Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some people’s
> mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into something and then
> a picture of that work is used elsewhere to possibly resemble where a 
> potential
> employee would work then it’s just misleading and could be considered 
> offensive
> to the people who did all the work originally ….. make sense?
> You’ll notice my choice of words here because I’m making assumptions about why
> the folks involved are upset and try to put myself in their shoes, at which
> point, if I have all my facts straight, I would be quite upset as well because
> it would look like someone else is taking complete credit for someone else’s
> work …. In the world of IX’s (something I do know a lot about) there is often
> people who don’t get pay checks as they volunteer however they get the rewards
> to contributing towards a great thing for the community … if you haven’t been
> involved at that level you may not understand anything I’m suggesting here ….
> Paul
> On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
> Question??
> Eric
> Why are you so upset?
> Did you have a bad dealing with someone and this is get back at them time?
> I agree with Faisal it's a picture
> Mitch
> On 8/5/2017 11:29 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Share with you a related story....
> I was in a Conf. room of one of our Colo Facilities Providers, they had some
> pictures on their Conf. Room wall, which all were nice.. but there was one
> picture that caught eye and appeared to be very familiar.. it was a picture of
> cluster of antennas mounted on the roof of that facility...
> Upon a closer look, I recognized that that cluster was our antennas ! ... so
> instantly two emotions came to mind... one was .. Hey that is a nice picture !
> I know to whom that stuff belongs to !... and the second... How dare you take
> pictures of my equipment and hang it your conf. room (we don't buy roof access
> from them) !...
> To me personally, the former feeling overcame the latter reaction... and I
> actually felt proud of our little Cluster that someone viewed presentable
> enough to put in their conf. room.
> Having said that.. if you are not the copyright owner of the photo.. then why
> does it bother you at all ? Hopefully you should feel proud that picture of an
> actual facility you know is being liked by others and being promoted on the
> net...
> and that is IMHO !
> Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and your mileage may vary !.
> :)
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Eric Kuhnke" mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:38:33 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
> I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a request.
> Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me room to
> advertise the Missouri IX.
> Property owners and ISPs in the Pacific Northwest have spent a great deal of
> time, money and effort building traffic exchange infrastructure.
> In my opinion is not an accurate or factual depiction of whatever facilities 
> may
> currently exist in Missouri to use a photograph from a carrier hotel in
> downtown Seattle.
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