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> On Aug 6, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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> You got it:
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> Posts of snark, posts so cussed
> full of butt hurt, bitches not just
> I scatter these posts, these posts of rage
> take thine ignorant friend, make him age
> I see thine missives before me now
> I trash them, delete them, filter them down
> With these keystrokes I now do pwn
> Make thine mouse balls turn to stone 
> With this hex I curse this thread
> further thoughts -  pain in head
> So mote it be!
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> From: Mitch Koep
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 5:38 PM
> To: af@afmug.com ; Faisal Imtiaz
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
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> Will somebody PLEASE kill this string?????
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> LOL it will go on and on forever
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> Mitch
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> On 8/6/2017 3:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
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> Are you prepared to give your customers a 'Tour of the Facilities?'
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> We normally like to have a tour of the facilities before we engage for 
> service.
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> We also have 'informal' colo facilities, for which we highly encourage 
> customers to visit before deciding to utilize.
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> How does this 'relate' to a pictures of racks and cables ? which could be 
> anywhere...
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> BWT.... in case you all have not seen the large posters from Equinix.... they 
> are using a beautiful picture of high rises in Dubai... should we be offended 
> that  are they using an awesome picture of high-rises from a  foreign country 
> when they are a US Based company ?
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> Dude, get over it .. .there is a fine line in advertising.... and everyone 
> dresses up for the formal presentation .... So What ?
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> :)
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> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
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> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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> From: "Matt Hoppes" mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:03:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
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> So let me throw this out. I advertise a colo facility with generator backup.
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> Post pictures like this.
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> Actual facility is a back room in an office with racks from Lowe's and a roll 
> out generator we plug in with extension cords.
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> At what point is this a problem?
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> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> Pre-patch a bunch of stuff into pre-populated SFPs and when orders are 
> submitted, the data center's cross connect crew does all the work. No need to 
> visit the facility regularly.  :-)
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>  
> Midwest Internet Exchange
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> The Brothers WISP
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> From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:35:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
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> I'm not sure IX employees ever really work in the MMR, rarely in the data 
> center at all. Once a month? Once every other month?
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> Depends on the IX (as I get off topic here) … some of them are daily in 
> MMR’s.  As for DC’s themselves, I can speak personally about one IX in 
> particular where it’s 2-3 times a week I’d estimate and another one that is 
> manned within the DC 24x7. 
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> An MMR not maintained by volunteers, but the paid building management. No 
> one's volunteered blood, sweat and tears went into it. Someone paid to do it 
> was.
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> True … but lots of volunteers from IX’s sometimes have access to the MMR’s to 
> do their work. It varies of course… quite a number of IX’s use colo providers 
> whom are paid to do that MMR work but that’s not alway the case ….
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> Anyways - moot points here and I’m dropping from the conversation as probably 
> not helping here :) 
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> Midwest Internet Exchange
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> The Brothers WISP
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> From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 6:56:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
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> I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in 
> question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more 
> accurate).  Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some people’s 
> mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into something and 
> then a picture of that work is used elsewhere to possibly resemble where a 
> potential employee would work then it’s just misleading and could be 
> considered offensive to the people who did all the work originally ….. make 
> sense?
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> You’ll notice my choice of words here because I’m making assumptions about 
> why the folks involved are upset and try to put myself in their shoes, at 
> which point, if I have all my facts straight, I would be quite upset as well 
> because it would look like someone else is taking complete credit for someone 
> else’s work …. In the world of IX’s (something I do know a lot about) there 
> is often people who don’t get pay checks as they volunteer however they get 
> the rewards to contributing towards a great thing for the community … if you 
> haven’t been involved at that level you may not understand anything I’m 
> suggesting here ….
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> Paul
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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
> Question??
> Eric
> Why are you so upset?
> Did you have a bad dealing with someone and this is get back at them time?
> I agree with Faisal it's a picture
> Mitch
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> On 8/5/2017 11:29 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
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> Share with you a related story....
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> I was in a Conf. room of one of our Colo Facilities Providers, they had some 
> pictures on their Conf. Room wall, which all were nice.. but there was one 
> picture that caught eye and appeared to be very familiar.. it was a picture 
> of cluster of antennas mounted on the roof of that facility...
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> Upon a closer look, I recognized that that cluster was our antennas ! ... so 
> instantly two emotions came to mind... one was .. Hey that is a nice picture 
> ! I know to whom that stuff belongs to !... and the second... How dare you 
> take pictures of my equipment and hang it your conf. room (we don't buy roof 
> access from them)  !...
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> To me personally, the former feeling overcame the latter reaction... and I 
> actually felt proud of our little Cluster that someone viewed presentable 
> enough to put in their conf. room.
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> Having said that.. if you are not the copyright owner of the photo.. then why 
> does it bother you at all ? Hopefully you should feel proud that picture of 
> an actual facility you know is being liked by others and being promoted on 
> the net...
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> and that is IMHO !
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> Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and your mileage may vary !.
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> :)
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> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
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> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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> From: "Eric Kuhnke" mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:38:33 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
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> I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a request.
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> Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me room to 
> advertise the Missouri IX.
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> Property owners and ISPs in the Pacific Northwest have spent a great deal of 
> time, money and effort building traffic exchange infrastructure.
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> In my opinion is not an accurate or factual depiction of whatever facilities 
> may currently exist in Missouri to use a photograph from a carrier hotel in 
> downtown Seattle.
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