Are you prepared to give your customers a 'Tour of the Facilities?' 

We normally like to have a tour of the facilities before we engage for service. 

We also have 'informal' colo facilities, for which we highly encourage 
customers to visit before deciding to utilize. 

How does this 'relate' to a pictures of racks and cables ? which could be 

BWT.... in case you all have not seen the large posters from Equinix.... they 
are using a beautiful picture of high rises in Dubai... should we be offended 
that are they using an awesome picture of high-rises from a foreign country 
when they are a US Based company ? 

Dude, get over it .. .there is a fine line in advertising.... and everyone 
dresses up for the formal presentation .... So What ? 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 

> From: "Matt Hoppes" <>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:03:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

> So let me throw this out. I advertise a colo facility with generator backup.

> Post pictures like this.

> Actual facility is a back room in an office with racks from Lowe's and a roll
> out generator we plug in with extension cords.

> At what point is this a problem?

> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Mike Hammett < > wrote:

>> Pre-patch a bunch of stuff into pre-populated SFPs and when orders are
>> submitted, the data center's cross connect crew does all the work. No need to
>> visit the facility regularly. :-)

>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>> The Brothers WISP

>> From: "Paul Stewart" < >
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:35:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

>>> I'm not sure IX employees ever really work in the MMR, rarely in the data 
>>> center
>>> at all. Once a month? Once every other month?

>> Depends on the IX (as I get off topic here) … some of them are daily in 
>> MMR’s.
>> As for DC’s themselves, I can speak personally about one IX in particular 
>> where
>> it’s 2-3 times a week I’d estimate and another one that is manned within the 
>> DC
>> 24x7.

>>> An MMR not maintained by volunteers, but the paid building management. No 
>>> one's
>>> volunteered blood, sweat and tears went into it. Someone paid to do it was.

>> True … but lots of volunteers from IX’s sometimes have access to the MMR’s 
>> to do
>> their work. It varies of course… quite a number of IX’s use colo providers 
>> whom
>> are paid to do that MMR work but that’s not alway the case ….

>> Anyways - moot points here and I’m dropping from the conversation as probably
>> not helping here :)

>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>> The Brothers WISP

>>> From: "Paul Stewart" < >
>>> To: "Animal Farm" < >
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 6:56:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

>>> I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in
>>> question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more
>>> accurate). Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some people’s
>>> mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into something and 
>>> then
>>> a picture of that work is used elsewhere to possibly resemble where a 
>>> potential
>>> employee would work then it’s just misleading and could be considered 
>>> offensive
>>> to the people who did all the work originally ….. make sense?

>>> You’ll notice my choice of words here because I’m making assumptions about 
>>> why
>>> the folks involved are upset and try to put myself in their shoes, at which
>>> point, if I have all my facts straight, I would be quite upset as well 
>>> because
>>> it would look like someone else is taking complete credit for someone else’s
>>> work …. In the world of IX’s (something I do know a lot about) there is 
>>> often
>>> people who don’t get pay checks as they volunteer however they get the 
>>> rewards
>>> to contributing towards a great thing for the community … if you haven’t 
>>> been
>>> involved at that level you may not understand anything I’m suggesting here 
>>> ….

>>> Paul

>>>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Koep < > wrote:
>>>> Question??
>>>> Eric
>>>> Why are you so upset?
>>>> Did you have a bad dealing with someone and this is get back at them time?
>>>> I agree with Faisal it's a picture
>>>> Mitch
>>>> On 8/5/2017 11:29 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>>>>> Share with you a related story....

>>>>> I was in a Conf. room of one of our Colo Facilities Providers, they had 
>>>>> some
>>>>> pictures on their Conf. Room wall, which all were nice.. but there was one
>>>>> picture that caught eye and appeared to be very familiar.. it was a 
>>>>> picture of
>>>>> cluster of antennas mounted on the roof of that facility...

>>>>> Upon a closer look, I recognized that that cluster was our antennas ! ... 
>>>>> so
>>>>> instantly two emotions came to mind... one was .. Hey that is a nice 
>>>>> picture !
>>>>> I know to whom that stuff belongs to !... and the second... How dare you 
>>>>> take
>>>>> pictures of my equipment and hang it your conf. room (we don't buy roof 
>>>>> access
>>>>> from them) !...

>>>>> To me personally, the former feeling overcame the latter reaction... and I
>>>>> actually felt proud of our little Cluster that someone viewed presentable
>>>>> enough to put in their conf. room.

>>>>> Having said that.. if you are not the copyright owner of the photo.. then 
>>>>> why
>>>>> does it bother you at all ? Hopefully you should feel proud that picture 
>>>>> of an
>>>>> actual facility you know is being liked by others and being promoted on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> net...

>>>>> and that is IMHO !

>>>>> Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and your mileage may 
>>>>> vary !.

>>>>> :)

>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:

>>>>>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:38:33 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

>>>>>> I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a 
>>>>>> request.
>>>>>> Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me 
>>>>>> room to
>>>>>> advertise the Missouri IX.

>>>>>> Property owners and ISPs in the Pacific Northwest have spent a great 
>>>>>> deal of
>>>>>> time, money and effort building traffic exchange infrastructure.

>>>>>> In my opinion is not an accurate or factual depiction of whatever 
>>>>>> facilities may
>>>>>> currently exist in Missouri to use a photograph from a carrier hotel in
>>>>>> downtown Seattle.

>>>>>> <image.png>

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