It's a problem when you're not even understanding what you're talking about, so it's a problem now. Well, and you didn't attach the pictures you were talking about.
You said you advertise colo A and have colo B. That's different than having IX A and showing colo B. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 11:03:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX So let me throw this out. I advertise a colo facility with generator backup. Post pictures like this. Actual facility is a back room in an office with racks from Lowe's and a roll out generator we plug in with extension cords. At what point is this a problem? On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Pre-patch a bunch of stuff into pre-populated SFPs and when orders are submitted, the data center's cross connect crew does all the work. No need to visit the facility regularly. :-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" < p...@paulstewart.org > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:35:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX <blockquote> I'm not sure IX employees ever really work in the MMR, rarely in the data center at all. Once a month? Once every other month? Depends on the IX (as I get off topic here) … some of them are daily in MMR’s. As for DC’s themselves, I can speak personally about one IX in particular where it’s 2-3 times a week I’d estimate and another one that is manned within the DC 24x7. <blockquote> An MMR not maintained by volunteers, but the paid building management. No one's volunteered blood, sweat and tears went into it. Someone paid to do it was. </blockquote> True … but lots of volunteers from IX’s sometimes have access to the MMR’s to do their work. It varies of course… quite a number of IX’s use colo providers whom are paid to do that MMR work but that’s not alway the case …. Anyways - moot points here and I’m dropping from the conversation as probably not helping here :) <blockquote> ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" < p...@paulstewart.org > To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 6:56:15 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more accurate). Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some people’s mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into something and then a picture of that work is used elsewhere to possibly resemble where a potential employee would work then it’s just misleading and could be considered offensive to the people who did all the work originally ….. make sense? You’ll notice my choice of words here because I’m making assumptions about why the folks involved are upset and try to put myself in their shoes, at which point, if I have all my facts straight, I would be quite upset as well because it would look like someone else is taking complete credit for someone else’s work …. In the world of IX’s (something I do know a lot about) there is often people who don’t get pay checks as they volunteer however they get the rewards to contributing towards a great thing for the community … if you haven’t been involved at that level you may not understand anything I’m suggesting here …. Paul <blockquote> On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Koep < af...@abwisp.com > wrote: Question?? Eric Why are you so upset? Did you have a bad dealing with someone and this is get back at them time? I agree with Faisal it's a picture Mitch On 8/5/2017 11:29 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: <blockquote> Share with you a related story.... I was in a Conf. room of one of our Colo Facilities Providers, they had some pictures on their Conf. Room wall, which all were nice.. but there was one picture that caught eye and appeared to be very familiar.. it was a picture of cluster of antennas mounted on the roof of that facility... Upon a closer look, I recognized that that cluster was our antennas ! ... so instantly two emotions came to mind... one was .. Hey that is a nice picture ! I know to whom that stuff belongs to !... and the second... How dare you take pictures of my equipment and hang it your conf. room (we don't buy roof access from them) !... To me personally, the former feeling overcame the latter reaction... and I actually felt proud of our little Cluster that someone viewed presentable enough to put in their conf. room. Having said that.. if you are not the copyright owner of the photo.. then why does it bother you at all ? Hopefully you should feel proud that picture of an actual facility you know is being liked by others and being promoted on the net... and that is IMHO ! Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and your mileage may vary !. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net ----- Original Message ----- <blockquote> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:38:33 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX </blockquote> <blockquote> I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a request. Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me room to advertise the Missouri IX. Property owners and ISPs in the Pacific Northwest have spent a great deal of time, money and effort building traffic exchange infrastructure. In my opinion is not an accurate or factual depiction of whatever facilities may currently exist in Missouri to use a photograph from a carrier hotel in downtown Seattle. <image.png> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
