If youre not reading the contract before you sign it, and following up with
questions about basic things like that then there is a much bigger issue
for your company than a stock profile background image

On Aug 6, 2017 11:03 AM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:

> So let me throw this out. I advertise a colo facility with generator
> backup.
>
> Post pictures like this.
>
> Actual facility is a back room in an office with racks from Lowe's and a
> roll out generator we plug in with extension cords.
>
> At what point is this a problem?
>
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> Pre-patch a bunch of stuff into pre-populated SFPs and when orders are
> submitted, the data center's cross connect crew does all the work. No need
> to visit the facility regularly.  :-)
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:35:54 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
>
>
> I'm not sure IX employees ever really work in the MMR, rarely in the data
> center at all. Once a month? Once every other month?
>
>
> Depends on the IX (as I get off topic here) … some of them are daily in
> MMR’s.  As for DC’s themselves, I can speak personally about one IX in
> particular where it’s 2-3 times a week I’d estimate and another one that is
> manned within the DC 24x7.
>
>
>  An MMR not maintained by volunteers, but the paid building management. No
> one's volunteered blood, sweat and tears went into it. Someone paid to do
> it was.
>
> True … but lots of volunteers from IX’s sometimes have access to the MMR’s
> to do their work. It varies of course… quite a number of IX’s use colo
> providers whom are paid to do that MMR work but that’s not alway the case ….
>
> Anyways - moot points here and I’m dropping from the conversation as
> probably not helping here :)
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, August 6, 2017 6:56:15 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
>
> I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in
> question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more
> accurate).  Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some
> people’s mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into
> something and then a picture of that work is used elsewhere to possibly
> resemble where a potential employee would work then it’s just misleading
> and could be considered offensive to the people who did all the work
> originally ….. make sense?
>
> You’ll notice my choice of words here because I’m making assumptions about
> why the folks involved are upset and try to put myself in their shoes, at
> which point, if I have all my facts straight, I would be quite upset as
> well because it would look like someone else is taking complete credit for
> someone else’s work …. In the world of IX’s (something I do know a lot
> about) there is often people who don’t get pay checks as they volunteer
> however they get the rewards to contributing towards a great thing for the
> community … if you haven’t been involved at that level you may not
> understand anything I’m suggesting here ….
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Question??
> Eric
> Why are you so upset?
> Did you have a bad dealing with someone and this is get back at them time?
> I agree with Faisal it's a picture
> Mitch
> On 8/5/2017 11:29 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
> Share with you a related story....
>
> I was in a Conf. room of one of our Colo Facilities Providers, they had
> some pictures on their Conf. Room wall, which all were nice.. but there was
> one picture that caught eye and appeared to be very familiar.. it was a
> picture of cluster of antennas mounted on the roof of that facility...
>
> Upon a closer look, I recognized that that cluster was our antennas ! ...
> so instantly two emotions came to mind... one was .. Hey that is a nice
> picture ! I know to whom that stuff belongs to !... and the second... How
> dare you take pictures of my equipment and hang it your conf. room (we
> don't buy roof access from them)  !...
>
> To me personally, the former feeling overcame the latter reaction... and I
> actually felt proud of our little Cluster that someone viewed presentable
> enough to put in their conf. room.
>
> Having said that.. if you are not the copyright owner of the photo.. then
> why does it bother you at all ? Hopefully you should feel proud that
> picture of an actual facility you know is being liked by others and being
> promoted on the net...
>
> and that is IMHO !
>
> Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and your mileage may vary
> !.
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
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>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, August 4, 2017 7:38:33 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
>
> I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a
> request.
> Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me room
> to advertise the Missouri IX.
>
> Property owners and ISPs in the Pacific Northwest have spent a great deal
> of time, money and effort building traffic exchange infrastructure.
>
> In my opinion is not an accurate or factual depiction of whatever
> facilities may currently exist in Missouri to use a photograph from a
> carrier hotel in downtown Seattle.
>
> <image.png>
>
>
>
>

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