As long as the lawn tractors don't punch through...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Aug 20, 2017, at 6:20 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
> I presume that double walled ribbed plastic culvert is available nationwide.  
> I could just do the galvanized steel lids for them and you get the culvert 
> locally and cut off a slice.  Not sure about making them traffic rated.  If 
> the lid is larger than the culvert the load could be transferred to the 
> earth.  If the middle of it was stiff enough it might be strong enough.  I 
> think it has to take 26,000 lbs. 
>  
> From: Jon Langeler
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 4:09 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>  
> Sounds like a winner. Then have 1 or more lid options  
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>  
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I was making handhole components a few years ago.  Not a big money maker.  
>> But handholes are simply too expensive.  I came up with some alternate 
>> designs, like a slice of 36” plastic conduit.  Made a lid to go over it.  
>> Maybe I ought to revisit that project.  The world needs lower cost hand 
>> holes. 
>>  
>> From: George Skorup
>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>  
>> We're looking at doing a neighborhood where we have wireless now. Private 
>> association of about 40 homes. The president is also an electrical 
>> contractor and has helped us on other non-fiber stuff in the past. So at 
>> least we can get duct at his cost. Looking like about 6250 feet of duct and 
>> 21 or 22 handholes. Probably going to follow Chuck Hogg's strategy with 1x4 
>> PLCs in the splice cases fed by PLCs at the cabinet. My rough guestimates 
>> are around $25-27k before putting it in the ground or customer drops. We 
>> figure we can make a business case with a $1k install.
>> 
>>> On 8/20/2017 12:31 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>> It does include the fiber, but not electronics or splice closures. Just 
>>> fiber, associated mounting hardware, and guy wires/anchors. 
>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Drops were anywhere from 150' to 1600'.  The long ones naturally pushed up 
>>>> the average quite a bit.
>>>>  
>>>> On the feed down the road it's $1.80/foot plus the cable.  The contractor 
>>>> is supplying all material except the cable itself and honestlyI don't 
>>>> recall how much of that was labor vs material.  We did have to add 4 
>>>> poles, so there's that in the $17,000/mile.  And that also includes splice 
>>>> enclosures, switches, optics, switch enclosure, and electric installation 
>>>> at the switch enclosure.
>>>>  
>>>> Does your $1/ft in materials include the actual fiber?  If not, then we're 
>>>> very close.  If it does then I have to sharpen the pencil quite a bit.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>>>> To: "javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');" 
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>>> Sent: 8/19/2017 3:49:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>>>  
>>>>> How long are the drops? Labor for main runs cost me about $.75/ft last 
>>>>> time I did it, plus around $1/ft in materials. I didn't have to do much 
>>>>> make ready though, that can add up quickly. I think my drops cost me 
>>>>> roughly $1/ft since I'm doing them myself now.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett 
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmmoff...@gmail.com');> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm at $17,000 per mile on a recent active E deployment.  Each customer 
>>>>>> installation averaged $900.  This is rural, so lots of long drops.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I guess I'm looking over to the next stall to see how mine measures up 
>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> Sent: 8/19/2017 9:55:20 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> So after the dust has settled on completed projects, what sort of money 
>>>>>>> have you ended up spending per mile?
>>>>>>> How much per customer installation?

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