Baltimore City is in the process of replacing all of its water meters. For some of them, this involves replacing the "vault" they are in as well. There is a construction lot near my house where they store them and they look a lot like double wall corrugated pipe with U cutouts in the bottom but are clearly manufactured. Guessing they would be a whole lot cheaper then real vaults. Not sure how they would work in a greenway as the covers are usiualy set in concrete.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote: > This is the spec you're looking for. Note that they certify the complete > assembly so something based on drainpioe may not really pass the spec. But > we would atill be interested. We just had to replace a plastic handhole > last week cause a tractor or something drove over it. Something strong > but cheaper than a $200 polymer concrete handhole would be ideal. We > don't have to prove compliance to a certian spec in our area. > > On Aug 20, 2017 10:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am thinking that if I put in some legs that would fit inside the >> culvert and if the lid was about 6” wider than the culvert all the way >> round, both the lip and the legs would be pretty strong if someone drove >> over it. >> >> I need some my self. Sounds like a worthy project to resurrect. Have to >> look up the method for rating hand holes. Something about tire widths and >> forces. I know with the polymer concrete you elevate the lid and drive a >> truck of certain weight on it and it cannot break. Not sure where I found >> that reference. I think it was some kind of DOT document. >> >> *From:* Chris Fabien >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:56 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >> >> We would be interested in a 24" version. >> >> On Aug 20, 2017 8:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I did a 24” version too. But if you are splicing a couple of 288 strands >>> the splice case is pretty large. >>> >>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:49 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] ; [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>> >>> 36" diameter? That's a big honkin handhole. What are you guys putting >>> into these hand holes? >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: 8/20/2017 5:56:37 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>> >>> >>> I was making handhole components a few years ago. Not a big money >>> maker. But handholes are simply too expensive. I came up with some >>> alternate designs, like a slice of 36” plastic conduit. Made a lid to go >>> over it. Maybe I ought to revisit that project. The world needs lower >>> cost hand holes. >>> >>> *From:* George Skorup >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>> >>> We're looking at doing a neighborhood where we have wireless now. >>> Private association of about 40 homes. The president is also an electrical >>> contractor and has helped us on other non-fiber stuff in the past. So at >>> least we can get duct at his cost. Looking like about 6250 feet of duct and >>> 21 or 22 handholes. Probably going to follow Chuck Hogg's strategy with 1x4 >>> PLCs in the splice cases fed by PLCs at the cabinet. My rough guestimates >>> are around $25-27k before putting it in the ground or customer drops. We >>> figure we can make a business case with a $1k install. >>> >>> On 8/20/2017 12:31 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>> >>> It does include the fiber, but not electronics or splice closures. Just >>> fiber, associated mounting hardware, and guy wires/anchors. >>> >>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Drops were anywhere from 150' to 1600'. The long ones naturally pushed >>>> up the average quite a bit. >>>> >>>> On the feed down the road it's $1.80/foot plus the cable. The >>>> contractor is supplying all material except the cable itself and honestlyI >>>> don't recall how much of that was labor vs material. We did have to add 4 >>>> poles, so there's that in the $17,000/mile. And that also includes splice >>>> enclosures, switches, optics, switch enclosure, and electric installation >>>> at the switch enclosure. >>>> >>>> Does your $1/ft in materials include the actual fiber? If not, then >>>> we're very close. If it does then I have to sharpen the pencil quite a >>>> bit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');" < >>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> Sent: 8/19/2017 3:49:07 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>>> >>>> >>>> How long are the drops? Labor for main runs cost me about $.75/ft last >>>> time I did it, plus around $1/ft in materials. I didn't have to do much >>>> make ready though, that can add up quickly. I think my drops cost me >>>> roughly $1/ft since I'm doing them myself now. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett < >>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm at $17,000 per mile on a recent active E deployment. Each >>>>> customer installation averaged $900. This is rural, so lots of long >>>>> drops. >>>>> >>>>> I guess I'm looking over to the next stall to see how mine measures up >>>>> to yours. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: 8/19/2017 9:55:20 AM >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So after the dust has settled on completed projects, what sort of >>>>> money have you ended up spending per mile? >>>>> How much per customer installation? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
