I am thinking that if I put in some legs that would fit inside the culvert and 
if the lid was about 6” wider than the culvert all the way round, both the lip 
and the legs would be pretty strong if someone drove over it.  

I need some my self.  Sounds like a worthy project to resurrect.  Have to look 
up the method for rating hand holes.  Something about tire widths and forces.  
I know with the polymer concrete you elevate the lid and drive a truck of 
certain weight on it and it cannot break.  Not sure where I found that 
reference.  I think it was some kind of DOT document.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:56 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

We would be interested in a 24" version. 

On Aug 20, 2017 8:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

  I did a 24” version too. But if you are splicing a couple of 288 strands the 
splice case is pretty large.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:49 PM
  To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

  36" diameter?  That's a big honkin handhole. What are you guys putting into 
these hand holes?


  ------ Original Message ------
  From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: 8/20/2017 5:56:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

    I was making handhole components a few years ago.  Not a big money maker.  
But handholes are simply too expensive.  I came up with some alternate designs, 
like a slice of 36” plastic conduit.  Made a lid to go over it.  Maybe I ought 
to revisit that project.  The world needs lower cost hand holes.  

    From: George Skorup 
    Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

    We're looking at doing a neighborhood where we have wireless now. Private 
association of about 40 homes. The president is also an electrical contractor 
and has helped us on other non-fiber stuff in the past. So at least we can get 
duct at his cost. Looking like about 6250 feet of duct and 21 or 22 handholes. 
Probably going to follow Chuck Hogg's strategy with 1x4 PLCs in the splice 
cases fed by PLCs at the cabinet. My rough guestimates are around $25-27k 
before putting it in the ground or customer drops. We figure we can make a 
business case with a $1k install.


    On 8/20/2017 12:31 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

      It does include the fiber, but not electronics or splice closures. Just 
fiber, associated mounting hardware, and guy wires/anchors. 

      On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

        Drops were anywhere from 150' to 1600'.  The long ones naturally pushed 
up the average quite a bit.

        On the feed down the road it's $1.80/foot plus the cable.  The 
contractor is supplying all material except the cable itself and honestlyI 
don't recall how much of that was labor vs material.  We did have to add 4 
poles, so there's that in the $17,000/mile.  And that also includes splice 
enclosures, switches, optics, switch enclosure, and electric installation at 
the switch enclosure.

        Does your $1/ft in materials include the actual fiber?  If not, then 
we're very close.  If it does then I have to sharpen the pencil quite a bit.



        ------ Original Message ------
        From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]>
        To: "javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');" 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
        Sent: 8/19/2017 3:49:07 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

          How long are the drops? Labor for main runs cost me about $.75/ft 
last time I did it, plus around $1/ft in materials. I didn't have to do much 
make ready though, that can add up quickly. I think my drops cost me roughly 
$1/ft since I'm doing them myself now.

          On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

            I'm at $17,000 per mile on a recent active E deployment.  Each 
customer installation averaged $900.  This is rural, so lots of long drops.

            I guess I'm looking over to the next stall to see how mine measures 
up to yours.


            ------ Original Message ------
            From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
            To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
            Sent: 8/19/2017 9:55:20 AM
            Subject: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

              So after the dust has settled on completed projects, what sort of 
money have you ended up spending per mile? 
              How much per customer installation?



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