Thanks, I had not seed this document before. There is another one from the
DOT highway folks.
I wish I could get handholes for $200. By the time you buy handhole and lid it
is more like $235 (24x36)
From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 7:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
This is the spec you're looking for. Note that they certify the complete
assembly so something based on drainpioe may not really pass the spec. But we
would atill be interested. We just had to replace a plastic handhole last week
cause a tractor or something drove over it. Something strong but cheaper
than a $200 polymer concrete handhole would be ideal. We don't have to prove
compliance to a certian spec in our area.
On Aug 20, 2017 10:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I am thinking that if I put in some legs that would fit inside the culvert
and if the lid was about 6” wider than the culvert all the way round, both the
lip and the legs would be pretty strong if someone drove over it.
I need some my self. Sounds like a worthy project to resurrect. Have to
look up the method for rating hand holes. Something about tire widths and
forces. I know with the polymer concrete you elevate the lid and drive a truck
of certain weight on it and it cannot break. Not sure where I found that
reference. I think it was some kind of DOT document.
From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
We would be interested in a 24" version.
On Aug 20, 2017 8:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I did a 24” version too. But if you are splicing a couple of 288 strands
the splice case is pretty large.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com ; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
36" diameter? That's a big honkin handhole. What are you guys putting into
these hand holes?
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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/20/2017 5:56:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
I was making handhole components a few years ago. Not a big money maker.
But handholes are simply too expensive. I came up with some alternate
designs, like a slice of 36” plastic conduit. Made a lid to go over it. Maybe
I ought to revisit that project. The world needs lower cost hand holes.
From: George Skorup
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
We're looking at doing a neighborhood where we have wireless now. Private
association of about 40 homes. The president is also an electrical contractor
and has helped us on other non-fiber stuff in the past. So at least we can get
duct at his cost. Looking like about 6250 feet of duct and 21 or 22 handholes.
Probably going to follow Chuck Hogg's strategy with 1x4 PLCs in the splice
cases fed by PLCs at the cabinet. My rough guestimates are around $25-27k
before putting it in the ground or customer drops. We figure we can make a
business case with a $1k install.
On 8/20/2017 12:31 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
It does include the fiber, but not electronics or splice closures. Just
fiber, associated mounting hardware, and guy wires/anchors.
On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Drops were anywhere from 150' to 1600'. The long ones naturally
pushed up the average quite a bit.
On the feed down the road it's $1.80/foot plus the cable. The
contractor is supplying all material except the cable itself and honestlyI
don't recall how much of that was labor vs material. We did have to add 4
poles, so there's that in the $17,000/mile. And that also includes splice
enclosures, switches, optics, switch enclosure, and electric installation at
the switch enclosure.
Does your $1/ft in materials include the actual fiber? If not, then
we're very close. If it does then I have to sharpen the pencil quite a bit.
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From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
To: "javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');"
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Sent: 8/19/2017 3:49:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
How long are the drops? Labor for main runs cost me about $.75/ft
last time I did it, plus around $1/ft in materials. I didn't have to do much
make ready though, that can add up quickly. I think my drops cost me roughly
$1/ft since I'm doing them myself now.
On Saturday, August 19, 2017, Adam Moffett
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmmoff...@gmail.com');> wrote:
I'm at $17,000 per mile on a recent active E deployment. Each
customer installation averaged $900. This is rural, so lots of long drops.
I guess I'm looking over to the next stall to see how mine
measures up to yours.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 8/19/2017 9:55:20 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile
So after the dust has settled on completed projects, what sort
of money have you ended up spending per mile?
How much per customer installation?
