Sure. But it doesn’t matter what data center you’re in. You’re not getting a 
Gigabit connection back to your NOC for $100/month. 

> On Feb 25, 2018, at 14:24, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
> 
> Matt,
> It's not rocket science, move in to a real data center that has decent 
> connectivity and you can too can get access to these things.
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>> ????  How are people getting direct fiber feeds for $100/month?
>> 
>> Clearly I need to stop by your booth and see what has changed since we last 
>> talked. 
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2018, at 13:43, Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>       We should talk.  We have so many more connection points now it is 
>>> pretty easy and cheap to connect to us.  Most connections now are between 
>>> $100 and $600.  
>>> 
>>> -Layne
>>> Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse any misspelled words or embarrassing 
>>> auto-corrects!
>>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:29 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone discovering that you are 
>>>> transporting to one of use via VPN?
>>>>  
>>>> I think the chance is low. 
>>>> Then if discovered, what is the chance that the programmers will care?
>>>>  
>>>> When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to the 
>>>> VPN method. 
>>>>  
>>>> How about this,  you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very 
>>>> close to you.
>>>>  
>>>> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right....?
>>>>  
>>>> From: Layne Sisk
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>>>  
>>>> When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to 
>>>> your customers and you won’t make anything. 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Layne Sisk
>>>> 
>>>> ServerPlus
>>>> 
>>>> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:40 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> That's how technology is.
>>>> 
>>>> Until DirecTV, Google, Sony, etc. get full line-ups OTT, you're not going 
>>>> to find something you can sell that's going to have a full line-up.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> 
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> 
>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Clint Wiley" <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:01:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>>> 
>>>> That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want 
>>>> to choose the wrong technology/solution.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> _________________________
>>>> Clint Wiley
>>>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The statement of the week...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> 
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> 
>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe. Time will tell.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same 
>>>> lineup.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> 
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> 
>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>>> 
>>>> Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the 
>>>> public internet, why not RCTV?
>>>> 
>>>> Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: Clint Wiley
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds 
>>>> an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> _________________________
>>>> 
>>>> Clint Wiley
>>>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet
>>>> 
>>>> > On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > That is not by choice.  The content providers all have a different 
>>>> > tolerance as to how their product is piped around.  RealChoice could 
>>>> > drop 
>>>> > it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get 
>>>> > caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught.
>>>> >
>>>> > Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was 
>>>> > trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN 
>>>> > (silly, right)  over the public internet.  Some of them were OK with it.
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes
>>>> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM
>>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>>>> >
>>>> > RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line 
>>>> > requirement.
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com> 
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If 
>>>> >> so, 
>>>> >> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale 
>>>> >> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. 
>>>> >> on 
>>>> >> either provider?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> _________________________
>>>> >> Clint Wiley
>>>> >> Hagerstown Fiber Internet
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
> 
> 
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