I’m a trigger puller. That’s why I asked originally.  I’m looking for feedback 
now as I don’t plan to dwell on it for long.

Thanks,
_________________________
Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet


On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Adam Moffett 
<dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The thing is, while you're waiting someone else is selling a service to your 
customer.....and you're carrying the traffic without getting anything out of it.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Clint Wiley" 
<cl...@hagerstownfiber.com<mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/23/2018 7:01:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want to 
choose the wrong technology/solution.

Thanks,
_________________________
Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet


On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

The statement of the week...



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From: "Matt Hoppes" 
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

Maybe. Time will tell.

On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett 
<af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same 
lineup.



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________________________________
From: ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the
public internet, why not RCTV?

Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Wiley
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds
an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover.

Thanks,
_________________________

Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
> <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>
> That is not by choice.  The content providers all have a different
> tolerance as to how their product is piped around.  RealChoice could drop
> it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get
> caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught.
>
> Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was
> trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN
> (silly, right)  over the public internet.  Some of them were OK with it.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line
> requirement.
>
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley 
>> <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com<mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so,
>> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale
>> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. on
>> either provider?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> _________________________
>> Clint Wiley
>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet



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