Might not be their fault, but it still adds to the cost and that cost still must be justified as part of the analysis for or against using Real Choice.
Thanks, _________________________ Clint Wiley Hagerstown Fiber Internet On Feb 25, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net<mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote: That really isn't real choice's fault. As an ISP you should probably already have a landing point in a data center somewhere. On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: Sure. But it doesn’t matter what data center you’re in. You’re not getting a Gigabit connection back to your NOC for $100/month. On Feb 25, 2018, at 14:24, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net<mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote: Matt, It's not rocket science, move in to a real data center that has decent connectivity and you can too can get access to these things. On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: ???? How are people getting direct fiber feeds for $100/month? Clearly I need to stop by your booth and see what has changed since we last talked. On Feb 25, 2018, at 13:43, Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com<mailto:la...@serverplus.com>> wrote: Chuck, We should talk. We have so many more connection points now it is pretty easy and cheap to connect to us. Most connections now are between $100 and $600. -Layne Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse any misspelled words or embarrassing auto-corrects! On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:29 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone discovering that you are transporting to one of use via VPN? I think the chance is low. Then if discovered, what is the chance that the programmers will care? When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to the VPN method. How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very close to you. Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right....? From: Layne Sisk Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to your customers and you won’t make anything. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102<tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> <image001.png><http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> <image002.jpg> <image003.png><image004.jpg> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:40 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV That's how technology is. Until DirecTV, Google, Sony, etc. get full line-ups OTT, you're not going to find something you can sell that's going to have a full line-up. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Clint Wiley" <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:01:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want to choose the wrong technology/solution. Thanks, _________________________ Clint Wiley Hagerstown Fiber Internet On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: The statement of the week... ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV Maybe. Time will tell. On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same lineup. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the public internet, why not RCTV? Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this. -----Original Message----- From: Clint Wiley Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover. Thanks, _________________________ Clint Wiley Hagerstown Fiber Internet > On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > That is not by choice. The content providers all have a different > tolerance as to how their product is piped around. RealChoice could drop > it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get > caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught. > > Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was > trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN > (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with it. > > -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV > > RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line > requirement. > >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, >> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale >> provider? 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