I agree that their low upfront costs are appealing. They don’t have as many channels available, possibly due to the fact they use vpn to connect, but that might not matter. I’d need to figure out how important DVR is for customers.
Since they multicast I’d need to consider the impact of that on our network. That’s something we don’t have any experience with so I’m not sure what the impact would be. Thanks, _________________________ Clint Wiley Hagerstown Fiber Internet On Feb 23, 2018, at 10:27 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote: So, we have been working with Rodeo for nearly a year as they slowly get their system ready for launch. Technically, Realchoice is a better and more "finished" product, but the pricing left Zero margin for me to be able to sell, and the private line requirement PLUS a significant monthly minimum made it a non-starter. Rodeo, what they are offering to sell is more flexible channel lineup at prices that you can make a decent margin. If they can get the technical issues past them they will be a great option. They have made a lot of progress but it's been a very painful process to work through. Communication and transparency from them has been very poor, but improving lately. If server plus/ realchoice could find a way to get their pricing in line they'd be a slam dunk. I had a frank discussion with someone there a few months ago and the feedback I got was, we think our pricing is perfect, take it or leave it. On Feb 23, 2018 9:35 PM, "Clint Wiley" <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com<mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>> wrote: I’m a trigger puller. That’s why I asked originally. I’m looking for feedback now as I don’t plan to dwell on it for long. Thanks, _________________________ Clint Wiley Hagerstown Fiber Internet On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: The thing is, while you're waiting someone else is selling a service to your customer.....and you're carrying the traffic without getting anything out of it. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Clint Wiley" <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com<mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>> To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 2/23/2018 7:01:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want to choose the wrong technology/solution. Thanks, _________________________ Clint Wiley Hagerstown Fiber Internet On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: The statement of the week... ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV Maybe. Time will tell. On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same lineup. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the public internet, why not RCTV? Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this. -----Original Message----- From: Clint Wiley Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover. Thanks, _________________________ Clint Wiley Hagerstown Fiber Internet > On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" > <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: > > That is not by choice. The content providers all have a different > tolerance as to how their product is piped around. RealChoice could drop > it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get > caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught. > > Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was > trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN > (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with it. > > -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM > To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV > > RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line > requirement. > >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley >> <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com<mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, >> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale >> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. on >> either provider? >> >> Thanks, >> _________________________ >> Clint Wiley >> Hagerstown Fiber Internet
