MP via AGI wrote: > Alan, what is it about prednet that makes you think it’s conscious? > What signs is it showing? What’s it doing that makes you think this? > > From what I see, it’s something that predicts the next video frame > from the one it has been presented. There’s an NN for representation > but... that’s it.
Okay, that's a pretty good question. There are a couple of ways of approaching it. Lets start with what must prednet do to predict the next frame. It must MODEL reality to the extent necessary to make that prediction. Now modeling is waaaay overblown but there is a hidden gem there. In order to produce high quality predictions it will have a strong tendency to develop a conceptual framework, a hierarchy if you will, that closely resembles how humans think of and talk about reality. Now what you see there is flawed as the predictions are blurry and low quality, but once that is fixed, then you will be awfulydarnclose to solving AI. Now attach the entire thing to a motor for the purpose of spinning the thing around, we find that if it's making good predictions then therefore it is applying/activating/using concepts from it's world model which is indistinguishable from saying that it is conscious of those things being in the world. Lets approach it from another direction, When u peel back ur old eyelids what you are seeing is NOT what's coming in but it's what your brain predicts you are about to see. The eye sucks in many respects. Heard of the retinal blind spot? The brain uses the signals from the eyes to anchor and align the predictions that it is constantly making. Anatomically you see a 9: 1 ratio of signals going INTO the LGN of the thalamus, the 9 being "feedback" (predictions) from the brain and the 1 being signals from the optic nerve. Now the signal from the optic nerve always dominates, but the output is an error signal not like the video cable you get out of your VCR... Now what we find when we consider dream states and how that seems to work, that generating perceptions is a primary function of the brain. It makes no sense that the brain would invest metabolic energy in a system that it only uses when it's asleep. -- no, wakefulness is sensory guided/anchored sleep. ;) There is actually shockingly little else to say about consciousness. I suppose because people are either so overwhelmed by it or have emotional reasons to want there to be more. Sorry, this is what it is, this is how it works. =| Deal with it, make the AGI, and bring on the robot apocalypse. =P -- Please report bounces from this address to a...@numentics.com Powers are not rights. ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T81817474dba9a838-M33f1eeab8ef74abce6166270 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups