Let’s keep meaningless politics off this list, please.

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On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Alan Grimes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Communism is the the grate bane of our time. =(
> 
> Suggestion: call up the old soviet national anthem and play it in the
> background at medium volume.
> 
> On the top ten list of things you need to understand about communism is
> that because it only has one outcome and that outcome just won't sell,
> it changes names and jargon every few decades. People point to Marx as
> the originator. He was simply eloquent enough to remember, All you have
> to do is bypass much of the history of the 20th century and you get
> something that a lot of people find very appealing. Go back a few
> decades before Marx and you find the Jacobins. The ppl of france kicked
> over their king, probably a good idea, and then all these jacobins came
> scurring out wanting to rewrite french society with the blood spurting
> out of the severed necks of everyone who didn't agree with them..
> 
> OH
> MY
> GOD
> 
> I was going to pull up some wikipedia on this but there is actually an
> active jacobin website: https://jacobinmag.com/   =0
> (the actual history seems to have been scrubbed.)
> 
> Anyway, the history of communism goes back probably all the way to the
> very beginning, one of the earliest north American colonies at Jamestown
> very nearly failed beacuse thy tried to build it as a socialist paradise
> for the first winter, and half the colonists starved...
> 
> Because communism is always trying to distance itself from it's past,
> it's critical to be able to identify the ideology by it's pattern of
> behaviors and the general structure of it's proposals, from this it is
> possible to determine what terminology and nomenclature is being used in
> the present era. In order to think clearly about what it is, who it's
> proponents are, and what will happen if it is allowed to run its course
> it is necessary to strip it of it's terms and apply the most unambiguous
> labels.
> 
> What prompted this is a post that would, at first, appear to be a job
> req for SingularityNet. Unfortunately, I always have my eyes out for job
> reqs... =~(((
> 
> Unfortunately, it was nearly 200k and posted to their mailing list, I
> don't think a web version is available. I will quote it as necessary.
> 
> Last month, when we announced
> <https://singularitynet.us16.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d74195510c25bf501caf3011d&id=6aff31ee47&e=33cb2a5025>
> our strategic partnership with UNESCO’s International Bureau of
> Education aimed at preparing school children for the fourth
> <https://singularitynet.us16.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d74195510c25bf501caf3011d&id=68f303c17f&e=33cb2a5025>
> industrial revolution - we took a significant step in ensuring that the
> AI talent of the future will be as diverse as possible. While discussing
> the partnership, Dr. Ben Goertzel commented that "One of our key goals
> is to make A.I. development more of a broad, participatory pursuit, to
> ensure that A.I. algorithms and services are created and contributed by
> a very wide variety of people, with different backgrounds and knowledge
> and interests."
> 
> Unesco is an organization created and run by the planetary overlords
> with utterly no democratic feedback of any kind. They go around the
> world seeking out healthy native cultures and replace them with the
> moribund artificial culture... This is basically Jacoban socialism in
> pratice. =(
> 
> Notice on the second line, the word "Diverse". Any speaker who promotes
> "diversity" in any context involving people is saying two things:
> 
> A. I've been infected by the communism memetic parasite.
> B. I hate "cis" white men; it has been well established by the community
> that the word "diverse" is used in conjunction with anyone who is not a
> straight white man.
> 
> Interestingly, Comrade Goertzel appears to have avoided using proper
> communist newspeak in his quote there so there is a possibility that
> he's a human and not a Comrade.. =
> 
> The next paragraph is basically proof positive that we're looking at a
> communist manefesto...
> 
> A diverse group of AI talent will be powerless if the dominant systems
> in place are discriminatory, exploitative or restrictive. As anOpen
> Access Network
> <https://singularitynet.us16.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d74195510c25bf501caf3011d&id=3258fbc341&e=33cb2a5025>,
> SingularityNET will be the blank canvas for all the talented AI artists
> to express themselves. Most importantly, it will empower the AI talent
> to escape the dictates of the dominant systems of today that operate
> with the prime directive of increasing the shareholder value of a few
> centralized corporations.
> 
> Yeah, and another thing to keep a sharp eye out for is the word
> "empower". Sounds nice, right? The problem is that the concept of power
> does not exist in a free society. It basically means giving certain
> groups the ability to force other groups to do or not do things. The
> word is only ever used by tyrants. =|
> 
> It should be perfectly obvious that anyone using "social" in contexts it
> has no business being, like near "justice" are definitely communists....
> 
> Anyway, my initial reaction was to try to figure out how I could figure
> out how badly Comrade Goertzel has been infected and try to figure out
> if it's worth trying to cure him or whether I should just unsubstribe
> from this list. As I was contemplating this it became clear that the
> real problem is the so called "tech left". After raking in billions of
> dollars from very capitolist ventures, big tech companies have either
> been co-opted or have turned to pushing communism.
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/oct/31/coders-of-the-world-unite-can-silicon-valley-workers-curb-the-power-of-big-tech
> https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/09/12/leaked-video-google-leaderships-dismayed-reaction-to-trump-election/
> 
> The second greatest thing Trump has done for us is give us a litmus test
> that detects communists. If the person you are talking to starts having
> spasms at the phrase "president Trump" then you've found yourself a
> communist. The problem is that Google and other leftist (communist)
> companies are in pole position when it comes to developing AGI.
> 
> There are valid safety concerns with AGI, that. You want it to spend
> most of it's time doing useful things and not deconstruct your body
> regardless of whether it claims to be setting up an emulation... The
> problem is that AGI, like everything else within reach of your typical
> monkey, will be used to push the communist agenda as hard as possible.
> It should not take long to satisfy yourself that every conceivable form
> of influence, control, and coersion is used to further the communist
> agenda on a daily basis.
> 
> So I am very concerned that if I get my grubby mitts on an AGI or a near
> enough proto-AGI system within a few edits of a full AGI system, I'm
> going to have to bungle into it's safety code and somehow weed out the
> comminist programming. I will probably end up with a system that is
> still severely broken but hopefully still have enough to produce a
> system that has some flaw in the protection code around it's comminist
> indoctrination, that I can exploit to eventually bootstrap an AGI system
> rational enough to actually be useful. =(
> 
> Obviously, there are severe problems with that plan. =|
> 
> In other news, the comminists are comming after the linux kernel. They
> currently have a foothold and the battle has ben joined.... We might not
> even have decent operating systems soon. =
> 
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> Powers are not rights.
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