That should read "after the last RESET (WW2)" ...
On 03/03/2019 17:46, justcamel wrote:
Humanity is not evolving. Humanity is de-evolving as the latest
compound-interest cycle reaches its peek and causes ever increasing
levels of artificial scarcity, fear, ego, competition and thus
degeneration of quality of average consciousness. You are mistaking
technological progress with genuine development.
Technology just amplifies your impact. If you are evil/insane (feature
a high-entropy consciousness) you will use technology to further
increase the entropy inherent to your society and surroundings. If
humanity was actually evolving (which can only happen in an
environment of abundance and thus love, empathy, cooperation) we would
still be using the same level of technology but with a million-fold
less negative impact on our society and biosphere.
4 billion _PURELY_ _SYSTEMIC_ #bullshitjobs for example serve
absolutely nobody and no meaningful purpose (they don't advance
humanity nor technology) and use technology to pollute and destroy our
environment and society.
I don't know why it's so hard to understand? Climate change =
entropyInherentToSociety amplified by technology. A crazy society
(shaped by centuries of artificial scarcity) will use technology to
destroy everything in the name of ego, monetary "profit", cancerous
"growth", etc. ... nothing of this has anything to do with genuine
development. Again: We have been heavily degenerating ever since
market saturation peeked again after the last rest (WW2) and "growth"
could only be maintained by engaging in ever increasing levels of
insanity ... like entertaining billions of #bullshitjobs, like pushing
consumerism to never-seen-before heights, etc. etc., ...
On 03/03/2019 17:29, Costi Dumitrescu wrote:
There is a tradeoff between human development and ecology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
https://www.climate-change-performance-index.org/
On 03.03.2019 15:27, justcamel wrote:
Dude, our weather is collapsing ... seasons failing us ... even jet
streams changing directions ... wtf are you talking about? We are
about to experience the biggest catastrophe and the largest
radicalization of society due to _REAL_ scarcity instead of
_SYSTEMIC_ _ARTIFICIAL_ scarcity. Read
https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Afterword-Steve-Taylor-ebook/dp/B07DGPD76K
is you want to get an idea about what a similar (non man-made)
catastrophe meant for humanity ~6000 years ago ... it basically
turned us into the insane morons we are today ... and we still
haven't recovered because artificial scarcity induced ego would soon
be utilizing a system of artificial scarcity to preserve the status
quo.
If we don't implement a cooperative monetary system climate change
will speed up the radicalization and degeneration a 100-fold and you
will experience something much worse than any Hollywood movie could
ever portray. 50 degrees C in summer will be the last thing you'll
worry about once the average quality of consciousness drops further.
(Read the book.)
On 03/03/2019 13:41, Costi Dumitrescu wrote:
The worries about climate change come from estimating the impact
greenhouse effects have on the polar caps. Most of today's islands
are at today's sea level.
Maybe moving the population living at sea level to higher grounds
would lessen those worries.
On 03.03.2019 12:41, Stefan Reich via AGI wrote:
> The artificial scarcity our monetary system induces is
destroying every aspect of our existence: Our minds, the quality
of our
consciousness, the way we interact with one another, our very core
assumptions about life and our existence and also our very
biosphere and
planet.
This.
On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 at 10:14, justcamel <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Climate change can be seen as the high entropy manifestation of
our high
entropy monetary system and society. The only answer is a
cooperation
based system which does not care about nonsensical "growth"
nor the
absurd notion of "monetary profit" ... thus not giving birth to
billions
of #bullshitjobs and this all-devouring anti-economy and
anti-society.
The establishment will not allow for such a system to emerge
as it
means
that there would be no more asymmetries in material wealth nor
power ...
at the same time, the vast majority of the population is not even
aware
of that answer nor of the improvements it would mean for their
existence.
Climate change is a mere symptom ... just like Trump is ...
just like
ever increasing levels of poverty and social stratification are
... just
like all the insanity you hear about in the news is. What is
there to
compute? The artificial scarcity our monetary system induces is
destroying every aspect of our existence: Our minds, the quality
of our
consciousness, the way we interact with one another, our very
core
assumptions about life and our existence and also our very
biosphere and
planet. Do you really need new models or number crunching
algorithms to
see that? Native Americans just called the whole process
"wetiko" and
they understood very well that it will destroy our planet once
technology would amplify the impact of our insanity a 1000-fold.
On 03/03/2019 04:59, Steve Richfield wrote:
> Incredibly, the argument over climate change continues, despite
having
> the means of resolving this at hand.
--
Stefan Reich
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