What are you effectively saying: Is abiogenesis a general outcome of deterministic biochemical processes (the lab experiment), or a random effect of environmental conditions?
Why the focus on abiogenesis? My point was, it's rare, but real. Your response seems to agree. On Thu, 28 May 2026, 19:06 Matt Mahoney, <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2026, 11:23 AM Quan Tesla <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Abiogenesis is rare, but not improbable. All is relative. Suppose quantum >> energy propagated at a factor of 1.8, where is the real potential limit? At >> quaternion furcation? This sum scales beyond supermassive calculations to >> observable infinity. >> > > I don't understand what you mean. A group in Cambridge this February > evolved a self replicating 45 nucleotide RNA strand called QT45 in a bath > of activated trinucleotide triphosphate (RNA triples) in mildly alkaline > eutectic ice, replicating both itself and its complement with 94% fidelity > and 2.1% yield in 72 days. > https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adt2760 > > This is the critical step in abiogenesis, going from non-life to the > simplest form of life. The raw ingredients including nucleotides and simple > sugars are produced from lightning and ultraviolet light from Earth's early > atmosphere of hydrogen, methane, ammonia, and carbon dioxide, and also have > been found in meteorites. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis > > Obviously the rate of abiogenesis is going to be much lower in a soup of > thousands of random chemicals, including both left and right hand versions > of chiral molecules that don't appear in biologically derived organisms. > But if we can calculate the yield, then we will have a good idea of the > size of the universe beyond the event horizon and the bit complexity of the > program that describes it. > > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7daa29d46d037f94-M5da2cc3c54ddee908163f1b2> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7daa29d46d037f94-Mb4f9577a95e5e762b082500e Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
