Abiogenesis is rare, but not improbable. All is relative. Suppose quantum
energy propagated at a factor of 1.8, where is the real potential limit? At
quaternion furcation? This sum scales beyond supermassive calculations to
observable infinity.

On Wed, 27 May 2026, 17:13 Matt Mahoney, <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Wed, May 27, 2026, 1:45 AM swkane <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The current trajectory is the expansion of the Computronium Abyss:
>> https://github.com/dissipate/computronium_abyss as more and more of the
>> Earth's resources is converted to data centers and computing devices in
>> general, and more and more power is used to power computing devices. There
>> is no way to predict the precise trajectory or nature of the Abyss once it
>> hits a certain takeoff point and Moore's Law ends, to be taken over by a
>> new 'Law' for a different computing substrate.
>>
>
> Seth Lloyd used the Margolis-Levitin limit to calculate that the universe
> has enough mass-energy for 10^120 qubit operations. I computed the entropy
> of the universe at 2.95 x 10^122 bits based on the Bekenstein bound of the
> Hubble radius. Unfortunately, most of this entropy is heat, which can't be
> used for computation, and quantum computation can't implement memory
> because writing a bit is a non unitary (not time reversible) operation.
> Lloyd estimated the memory capacity of the universe at 10^90 bits by
> encoding 10^80 particle positions and velocities within the Heisenberg
> uncertainty limits. Separately I estimated that it is possible to write
> 10^92 bits by converting the 10^53 Kg mass of the universe to 10^70 J at
> the Landauer limit kT ln 2 energy per bit with k = Boltzmann's constant =
> 1.38 x 10^23 J/K and T = CMB temperature = 3 K. This makes eta_S ≈ 10^-30.
>
> A Kardashev level I could support 10^14 to 10^15 humans at 100 W each
> using only solar power. A level II using a Dyson sphere at 1 AU radius
> would support 10^46 operations per second, or 10^48 OPS at 10,000 AU and 3
> K temperature. That would be enough to simulate 3 billion years of
> evolution in a few minutes. If we uploaded to human level language models
> with 10^9 parameters (human long term memory capacity) and 10^18 lifetime
> bit operations, it could simulate 10^30 lifetimes per second. There are
> about 10^56 atoms in the solar system, enough to encode 10^47 minds over
> the next 10^17 seconds before the sun burns out.
>
> Level III multiplies everything by 10^11 and level IV by 10^23. We could
> get another factor of 10^2 by switching from hydrogen fusion to dropping
> stars into black holes.
>
> A paradox to ponder: if the Earth's current trajectory is the evolution
>> and expansion of the Computronium Abyss, why hasn't it already happened
>> somewhere else and consumed a visible part of the Universe?
>>
>
> Probability because abiogenesis is exceedingly rare and never happened on
> any of the other 10^24 planets in the observable universe or even in the
> much larger universe outside our event horizon. The multiverse theory says
> that the universe is as big as it has to be for intelligent life to evolve
> at least once for us to observe it. A smaller universe would require more
> bits to specify the physical constants and initial conditions for life, and
> would therefore be less likely.
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