On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>wrote:

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> Ben:You foolishly believe that the things you subjectively perceive as
> "shapes" cannot be recognized & comprehended by algorithmic processes
>
> If I'm "foolish", you should be able to produce some evidence that the
> irregular shapes/forms of natural objects like faces and rocks *can* be
> comprehended by algorithmic processes.
>


I will.. but unfortunately you are impatient as well as foolish ;-)



> And you should be able to explain what sort of common visual elements such
> shapes share - and would thus form the basis of algorithms.  You can't
> produce any evidence or empirical argument here. Zilch.
>
> There isn't a formula/algorithm for raindrops, for example
>
> http://kua.dk/media/waves18.jpg
>
> - like all natural objects they encompass too many vastly
> diverse shapes/forms.  You *state* that the world is patterned (and
> therefore algorithmic) - you just can't produce anything to back it up.
> Those drops ain't patterned. Nor is any type of real world scene as a whole.
>
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