Mike, 

 

No, Mike, this is precisely inferencial  emergence. In your pictures, I do
see a human fetus developing, but I also see other things. 

 

I see a physical system and I see a process of learning - or acquiring
information - and a process of self-organization. In an embrionic state, the
fetus is still quite simple, at least when compared with what it is going to
be 9 months later. The embrion immediately starts acquiring information,
from the DNA it has inside, from organic molecules it feeds from, present in
blood and in its environment. The initially relatively simple physical
system grows in complexity, and as Physics requires, it begins to
self-organize and to look the way it does in the pictures. 

 

The role of self-organization (by inference) in life has been ignored by
most biologists, but that's only because they didn't know that EI existed.
The notable exception is Stuart Kauffman, but he believes (incorrectly) that
inference in life systems is of a quantum nature. Which is not correct. 

 

Sergio

 

 

From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 4:43 AM
To: AGI
Subject: [agi] Re: Emergent "Inference"?

 

 

P.s. Of course, the classic example of non-inferential emergence is:

 

http://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/wwwhuman/Stages/Images/Cst800.jpg

 

The development of ideas in all creative projects proceeds along similar
non-inferential lines. Creative ideas - and indeed all the concepts of
language -  are "born" and "grow" along fluid lines, via fluid
transformations, rather than logical chains and outcomes. Somewhat like
those water drops (if you can remember the foto I showed a while back)
which can so dramatically change form.

 


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