Not only are graphics/outlines/frameworks essential to handling and visually
recognizing objects, they're essential to thinking and solving problems
about them, period - to pretty well all real world thought.
You reckon Newton thought about apples (etc) falling to earth, and moons
"falling" round planets, by thinking about their names/words? And proceeding
via logico-verbal inference.,?
Let's look at A-P-P-L-E-S and let's look at F-A-L-L-I-N-G.
F-A-L-L is associated with M-O-V-E
A-P-P-L-E-S M-O-V.E
and
P-L-A-N-E-T-S M-O-V-E
therefore ... er... therefore what?
You think that's how Newton and other scientists work? No graphical thought,
no diagrammatic-geometric thought? No visualising of the objects in question
and how they physically relate to each other? Instead, just play with the
words for them and blind PLN logic?
Hey, that's how you and Jim (I've got an awful lot of life to waste) B.
really DO think. You're not as mad as he is, but you think
graphical/imaginative thought is an extra, a side dish. No it's the main
course. You can't do anything without the structure of graphics - even your
semantic networks and similar constructions have a graphic construction
(except that the graphics are in the programmer's not the computer's head).
See the research on how blind people can draw. They draw the outlines of
objects, which they have obviously learned by touch. We have multiple senses
and graphics are the way to bind most of them. Graphics are fundamental to
nearly all our senses because they represent the outlines/frameworks of
objects and the . outlines/frameworks of scenes. Knowing the name/letters
arbitrarily associated with objects, is not remotely as important as
learning the shape of things. You don't handle an A-P-P-L-E. You handle a
real apple, and understanding and being able to process its outlines is
kinda essential for both handling and visually recognizing it.
Similarly, the rigid graphics and frameworks of geometry are fundamental for
mathematics, just as notches/lines are fundamental to numbers. But hey you
don't like graphics and visual stuff, so just ignore it all, and see how
far you get.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Goertzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:31 PM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] A General O.D. (Operational Definition) for all AGI
projects
Concepts themselves are a whole different medium. They're primarily
GRAPHIC/FIGURATIVE - pictographic/ideographic. Our concept of APPLE is
not
a set of letters but a graphic of the real thing, connected to more
detailed
sub-photographic/common sensical images of the real object.
And that is why the congenitally blind have no concepts ;-p ...
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