Martin: "what is the difference between positing "unknown" as the easy answer and "god" as the easy answer?" I don't know what the implications are for an AGI just yet. For humans it's pretty simple. When you posit "God" as an answer, you can end your search. The answer is known. When you posit "unknown" as an answer, you have to begin a new search to "know" the unknown. That's just what people do. I guess it all depends upon how much curiosity we program into the AGI. Or how much curiosity it develops for itself. ~PM
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 03:43:26 +0000 Subject: Re: [agi] Is Religion Efficient? From: [email protected] To: [email protected] My question was aimed at PM's implementation plans. 2013/12/12 Jim Bromer <[email protected]> A belief in God makes us think in terms of relations rather than particles. This complements the impression of objects that can be formed by interacting with common things and makes excessive reductionism less useful. I was just reading that one of the modern theories in physics is that relations or properties represent the foundation of the material world, not particles or fields. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM, martin biehl <[email protected]> wrote: what is the difference between positing "unknown" as the easy answer and "god" as the easy answer? 2013/12/11 Piaget Modeler <[email protected]> sjatkins: "Positing a super-complex deity results in a simplified causal model of reality? The mind boggles." We do not posit a super-complex deity. We posit a deity, the definition of which provides an easy answer to most questions. ~PM Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:11:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [agi] Is Religion Efficient? From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Positing a super-complex deity results in a simplified causal model of reality? The mind boggles. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote: You do not need a religion to build a simple causal model of the world. However, a well thought out materialistic causal model would lead to unanswerable complexities. And if a causal model interferes with the creation of non-causal relations then the model is going to be only of limited use unless it was always being changed a little. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]> wrote: Religion may be an efficient paradigm for an AGI to use in navigating the world. Ascribing causal events to an imperceptible deity may be an efficient mechanism for devising a simple and coherent model of the world, given volumes of somato-sensory data and its derivable conceptual implications. -- Thot of the day. ~PM AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription -- Jim Bromer AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription -- Jim Bromer AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
