> -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Mahoney via AGI [mailto:[email protected]] > > > I am not sure you understood me. I explained why we believe that > phenomenal consciousness exists. The reason it seems mysterious is that it > doesn't exist, at least according to any objective test or measurement you > can make. >
You're mistaking that fact that I don't agree with the idea that I don't understand you. A part of consciousness, I agree is the belief that consciousness exists. An example: If you isolate a group humans for many generations and instill into their minds that a particular uniquely shaped rock in the middle of the village is conscious, for all intents and practical purposes that damn rock is conscious. The mind is not a rock. > > You don't need to design consciousness into AGI. You just need to design > human behavior. When people see that it behaves like a human, they will > just assume that it is conscious. What other test could they do? > Agreed. You can make a p-zombie AGI. But would it understand really who we are if it doesn't have phenomenal consciousness? And might that not be dangerous to us? Why not crack the nut of phenomenal consciousness, the tests and all. We need a test right? That's what everyone complains about when studying this... John ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
