Yes, proto consciousness is non-orchestrated OR.
Orch-OR in the brain exists within all of the other neuron activities and has interconnection links quantum mechanically to your memories. Your qualia is you, you exist within and across your memories and other neuron level brain activities. Your subjective experience IMO picture a rapidly firing (gamma synchrony) topologically changing graph hosted within and across neuronic structure. That’s you. It helps to understand the human a consciousness with models like Orch OR in order to devise ways of building a virtual consciousness in software. Maybe not a consciousness for uploading or quantum mechanically interconnected… Orch OR is pretty good, what other theories out there attempt to describe it with such physio-electrochemical detail? (I’m unaware of any but would like to see them) John From: Ben Goertzel via AGI [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:52 PM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Review paper on measuring consciousness Yeah, I can't see how ORCH-OR, even if so, could solve the Chalmers "hard problem" When I asked Hameroff about this, he basically said he coupled ORCH-OR with a sort of weak pan-psychism in which every element in the universe has "proto-consciousness" and then the wave function collapse transforms this into full consciousness.... So the qualia problem is ultimately pushed into the proto-consciousness associated with every particle or whatever... -- ben g AGI | <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/248029-82d9122f> | <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Modify Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
