On 30 Nov 2002, James Rogers wrote:

> On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 19:38, John Rose wrote:
> > But if I were building
> > a new PC-based AI design, just from my experience, I would jump all over
> > Windows and it's offerings ... as well take a side glance at Lindows :)

At Cycorp, we switched from Symbolics Lisp Machines to Linux three years
ago, and although we have a port of the Cyc knowledge base for Win32 we
are now blocked by the memory model of Win32 which reserves 2GB of virtual
memory for the OS.  Linux reserves only 1 GB and because the Cyc KB is
currently memory resident we cannot contain the full Cyc KB in Win32
(max user address space is 2 GB) but we can contain the full Cyc KB in
Linux (max user address space is 3GB).

Another problem with Win32 is price/behavior between
desktop Win32 and Server Win32.  In desktop Win32, the bias is towards
fast Office application launch time and you will find server applications
suffering in that memory paging occurs even if sufficient RAM exists.  The
Win32 server OS is much more expensive and still does not completely solve
this performance problem.

The main problem with Win32 is the total cost of ownership issue, when you
multiply the total number of computers (desktops, laptops, servers,
work-at-home computers) by the cost of Win32 server + MS Visual Studio,
which must be upgraded every two-three years --  Compared to Linux in
which upgrades are free and most required software is free.

Of course some individuals may find Linux difficult to install for a
particular computer, but Cycorp has sysadmins to overcome that problem
and we purchase "white box" high performance computers with Linux
installed to our specs.

At Cycorp we put Win32 on the slowest, oldest computers (for
non-technical tasks) and are still  running Windows NT on most of those.
We put Linux on the majority of our fast AMD boxes which run the Cyc KB
best.  The Cyc KB uses HTML as its interface so we do not get value from
the Windows desktop, and we use java as the main interface language.

I have Win2K and WinXP at home on two computers and Linux on my faster
home servers.  I expect that some year I will retire Win32 and convert
mainly to Linux-64 at the rate at which Linux is improving.

-Steve


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