On 12/1 Maitri said "This is a group developing a language geared exclusively towards AI development. "
I volunteered to help work towards the Singularity. They guided me towards Flare since that was the only active project they could point me to. I conceded I might be of some help. But after several discussion with the project manager looking at current state of the project (basic specs) I determined I really couldn't contribute much without a more detailed understanding of the objectives of the code and examples of code and how programs would be written in it. The project manager also told me that the language was designed to be general purpose rather than specific to AI. I agree that there are would be some advantages in a reflexive language that would allow the program to store data and code in the same internal format and modify/enhance itself, but much of that is already present in languages such as lisp. I think the institute's plan is to not wait on Flare to be finished but start using some other langauge and then port when Flare is complete. What disturbs me a little is that I have really seen no architecture laid out for AGI beyond the conceptual level. I am still very willing to donate my time and expertise to the institute once sufficient project work has been initiated. Without a detailed project plan though it is very difficult to convey to people the tasks available for assignment and what specific tasks they may be of use in. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of maitri Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [agi] An idea for promoting AI development. For those interested in programming languages for AI, you may want to check out: http://flare.org/ This is a group developing a language geared exclusively towards AI development. They are affiliated with the Singularity Institute... Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [agi] An idea for promoting AI development. > On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 08:38, John Rose wrote: > > > > For the AI that I've been doing Windows has the essential > > ingredients. Developing these "Hunter Gatherer" nodes, they > > intricately exploit the Internet Explorer object model that is on 10 > > zillion Windows desktops. The nodes(one per machine) avoid paging > > penalties by keeping themselves way below major paging thresholds. > > In fact they try to keep themselves running healthy on machines with > > less than 64 megs. But to harmonize processing power they look for > > other nodes in IP address-space subsets, link themselves loosely, > > and generate/relay summary information through the lazy mesh. The > > nodes function as "constellations" but they don't penalize resources > > too much and all the glory of the IE objects are exploited. > > > See MOSIX under Linux. Transparent process migration, distribution, > and memory balancing across a cluster of computers. If the CPU load > or memory load is too high on one machine it transparently distributes > processes to other machines in the cluster with more free resources of > the type needed. > > It is a kernel-level patch, so no special application level > programming is required. Processes are oblivious to the fact that > they are being moved around the network as loading dictates. I don't > use MOSIX myself, but I know others that have and it has been around > for several years. It is a really slick trick for making a cluster > feel like a single machine without having to write special code in you > application. Normal process limits still apply of course, they just > aren't limited by the specific limits of the machine they may have > been started on. > > -James Rogers > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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