Well, the fact that clustering requires vectors for A2I2, is a property of your particular AI algorithms...
Our Novamente clustering MindAgent is based on the Bioclust clustering algorithm, which does not act on vectors: http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~rshamir/algmb/00/scribe00/html/lec12/node1.html Rather, it acts on (undirected) weighted graphs [which exist as subsets of Novamente's directed weighted hypergraph knowledge representation]. You can always turn a set of vectors into a weighted graph, or vice versa, but the transformation can be very impractical sometimes... Translating textual experience directly into weighted graphs is often more natural than translating it into vectors. A lot of NLP frameworks use graph representations.... -- Ben > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Peter Voss > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [agi] Grounding > > > I think it's more than a matter of 'pragmatics': In order to do > unsupervised > learning (clustering) of grounded entities and concepts, they *must* be > derived from vector-encodable input data. Obviously, not all > inputs need to > represent continuous attributes/ features, but foundational ones do. > > Peter > > http://adaptiveai.com/ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > Behalf Of Ben Goertzel > > Kevin, > > I'm sure you're right in a theoretical sense, but in practice, I have a > strong feeling it will be a lot easier to teach an AGI stuff if one has a > nonlinguistic world to communicate to it about. > > Rather than just communicating in math and English, I think > teaching will be > much easier if the system can at least perceive 2D pixel > patterns. It'll be > a lot nicer to be able to tell it "There's a circle" when there's a circle > on the screen [that you and it both see] -- to tell it "the > circle is moving > fast", "You stopped the circle", etc. etc. Then to have it see a > whole lot > of circles so that, in an unsupervised way, it gets used to perceiving > them.... > > This is not a matter of principle, it's a matter of > pragmatics.... I think > that a perceptual-motor domain in which a variety of cognitively simple > patterns are simply expressed, will make world-grounded early language > learning much easier... > > -- Ben > > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate > your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]