I work very hard to produce the exact same answer to the same question. If some humans don't actually do that, then they are just exhibiting the flaws that exist in our design. This is not to be confused with answering better over time, based on more and better information. The exact same information should always produce the exact same result in human or AGI.
Irrational thought could be simulated by an AGI so that a better model of some humans could be had but the less intentional defects built into the AGI the better. > A computer with finite memory can > only model (predict) a computer with less memory. No computer can simulate > itself. When we introspect on our own brains, we must simplify the model to a > probabilistic one, whether or not it is actually deterministic. This is NOT true. How many answers can be had by the formula for a single straight line? The answer is infinite. A computer CAN model/simulate anything including itself (whatever that means) given enough time. If the model has understanding (formulas or algorithms) then any amount of simulated detail can be realized. David Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mahoney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <agi@v2.listbox.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Determinism > I really hate to get into this endless discussion. I think everyone agrees > that some randomness in AGI decision making is good (e.g. learning through > exploration). Also it does not matter if the source of randomness is a true > random source, such as thermal noise in neurons, or a deterministic pseudo > random number generator, such as iterating a cryptographic hash function with > a secret seed. > > I think what is confusing Mike (and I am sure he will correct me) is that the > inability of humans to predict their own thoughts (what will I later decide to > have for dinner?) is something that needs to be programmed into an AGI. There > is actually no other way to program it. A computer with finite memory can > only model (predict) a computer with less memory. No computer can simulate > itself. When we introspect on our own brains, we must simplify the model to a > probabilistic one, whether or not it is actually deterministic. > > > -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=231415&user_secret=fabd7936
