Hi Mike,

When the Flash code on your machine contacts the server, I assume it would
use a fairly straightforward communications format (XML over HTTP maybe?).
If you install a program to monitor the communications, you might be able to
figure out how to get at the data without using Flash. There are plenty of
options for such monitoring: do a web search for HTTP sniffer, HTTP protocol
analyzer or HTTP spy or something along those lines. It installs on your own
computer and tells you all the communications that the Flash applet is
making with the server. I don't know about the legality of "mining" the
underlying web services and data with your own client (rather than the
supplied Flash applet). 

If you or your collaborator is currently based at a university, another
possibility would be to recruit an undergraduate student to implement a
similar Flash applet of your own. A simple "drawing recorder" without all
the fancy extras and graphic design of the imagination3 site should actually
be a fairly small project. You can probably find a student to create a
similar web service for you in a few days for less than a couple hundred
dollars.

-Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 4:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: [agi] Request for Help

Remember that mathematical test/ experiment you all hated - the one where 
you doodle on this site -

http://www.imagination3.com

and it records your actual stream of drawing in time as well as the finished

product?

Well, a reasonably eminent scientist liked it, and wants to set it up. But 
he's having problems contacting the site- they don't reply to emails &

"there's no way of accessing the time and
space coordinates of the drawings, unless there's a
possibility to read them from the Flash animation."

Can you suggest either a) a way round this or b) an alternative site/method 
to faithfully record the time and space coordinates of the drawings?

Cheeky request perhaps, but I would be v. grateful for any help.



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