Re Matt Mahoney's below post:

The implication in the below post that it is false to assume consciousness
exists appears to have substantially less evidence than the very assumption
it attacks.  

Something generates within my mind a sense of awareness of my sensations,
thoughts and feelings, a sense of awareness many people call
"consciousness".  Even if you contend that this sense of awareness is an
illusion, at least the illusion has enough reality that I am aware of it,
and it has most of the properties normally associated with the meaning of
the word "consciousness".  Many others have said they have a similar sense
of awareness of their own sensations, thoughts, and feelings.  This is a
substantial body of evidence that something that corresponds to what people
call a consciousness does in fact exist.

I am not aware of any evidence that indicates nothing corresponding to
consciousness exits.  

If there is any such evidence that merrits repeating, please tell me.

Ed Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [agi] CEMI Field

--- Günther Greindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I though this might be interesting:
> http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/cemi.htm

This is another example of starting with the false assumption that
consciousness (or qualia) exists, and then deriving bizarre theories to
explain it, like Penrose's quantum gravity.  A better explanation would be
that evolution selects for animals whose behavior is consistent with the
belief in qualia.


-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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