Abram, On 4/10/08, Abram Demski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd be interested in looking at a paper.
How are papers handled on this forum? Do I post it as an attachment, or just send it to you? What is the netiquette here? However, I'll be honest: your > claim of AGI sounds over-inflated, mainly because it sounds like your > algorithm is text-specific and wouldn't help with things like vision, > robot control, etc. It all depends on your definition of AGI. My belief is that the definition generally accepted here lacks the God/Santa Clause consideration. A *REAL*AGI would have simultaneous presence at thousands of locations, and would leverage on countless indigenous biological mechanisms (people) for most if not all of the I/O. BTW, perhaps you have seen the movie Colossus, the Forbin Project? Did you know that was the movie version of the first book of a trilogy, and that the subsequent books then explored a world with a version of AGI that I think may be beyond the one being considered here? Anyway, Dr. Eliza is very close to THAT concept of AGI. > Nonetheless, a good 'chatbot' is still something > of interest (I hope that term isn't taken as derogatory). As I explained in an earlier email, this is NOT a chatbot and will never win a chatbot competition. The ONLY reason it has a conversational interface is because that is the only thing that we could see working in the real world. Very early designs utilized lengthy questionnaires, but it soon became obvious that to work well in even a single subject domain, the questionnaire would have to be a bound volume. Steve Richfield =============== > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Stephen Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > > From: Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:58:09 PM > > Subject: [agi] Comments from a lurker... > > > > > > [snip] BTW, the principles behind Dr. Eliza are rather unique. I'd be > glad > > to send some papers to anyone who is interested. Briefly, Joe > Weisenbaum's > > original Eliza was built on two concepts, one good and one bad, that no > one > > previously separated. The good concept was that individual links in > complex > > cause and effect chains could be recognized by the occurrence of > slightly > > variable but easily describable snippets of text/speech. The bad concept > was > > that text/speech could be usefully manipulated by juggling words around. > Joe > > then wrote a book discrediting his own Eliza (with its unseparated > > concepts), thereby causing AI research to take a wrong turn 40 years ago > > from which it never recovered. However, the internals of Dr. Eliza > aren't > > really the subject of this posting, other than to demonstrate that AGI > now > > already exists, at least in this one potentially useful form. > > > > Any thoughts on all this? > > > > Hi Steve, thanks for speaking up. Is what you call Dr. Eliza, the same > > software program as the well known Eliza? > > > > In any case I would like to see example transcripts of the > doctor-beating > > medical dialog you mention. As perhaps you know, I am building an > English > > dialog system to bootstrap AGI, and if successful in realizing its > design, > > Texai should easily win the Chatterbot Challenge (some year) and also > > perhaps the Loebner Prize (some year). I studied existing chatbots of > > course. If you are familiar with A.L.I.C.E., I would be interested to > learn > > your opinion on how it compares with Dr. Eliza. > > > > -Steve Reed > > > > Stephen L. Reed > > > > Artificial Intelligence Researcher > > http://texai.org/blog > > http://texai.org > > 3008 Oak Crest Ave. > > Austin, Texas, USA 78704 > > 512.791.7860 > > > > > > agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ________________________________ > > > > agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > http://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=98558129-0bdb63 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
