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From: Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:58:09 PM
Subject: [agi] Comments from a lurker...


[snip] BTW, the principles behind Dr. Eliza are rather unique. I'd be glad to 
send some papers to anyone who is interested. Briefly, Joe Weisenbaum's 
original Eliza was built on two concepts, one good and one bad, that no one 
previously separated. The good concept was that individual links in complex 
cause and effect chains could be recognized by the occurrence of slightly 
variable but easily describable snippets of text/speech. The bad concept was 
that text/speech could be usefully manipulated by juggling words around. Joe 
then wrote a book discrediting his own Eliza (with its unseparated concepts), 
thereby causing AI research to take a wrong turn 40 years ago from which it 
never recovered. However, the internals of Dr. Eliza aren't really the subject 
of this posting, other than to demonstrate that AGI now already exists, at 
least in this one potentially useful form.
 
Any thoughts on all this?


Hi Steve, thanks for speaking up.  Is what you call Dr. Eliza, the same 
software program as the well known Eliza?  

In any case I would like to see example transcripts of the doctor-beating 
medical dialog you mention.  As perhaps you know, I am building an English 
dialog system to bootstrap AGI, and if successful in realizing its design, 
Texai should easily win the Chatterbot Challenge (some year) and also perhaps 
the Loebner Prize (some year).  I studied existing chatbots of course.  If you 
are familiar with A.L.I.C.E., I would be interested to learn your opinion on 
how it compares with Dr. Eliza.

-Steve Reed

Stephen L. Reed

Artificial Intelligence Researcher
http://texai.org/blog
http://texai.org
3008 Oak Crest Ave.
Austin, Texas, USA 78704
512.791.7860

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