> From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Are rocks conscious? (was RE: [agi] Did this message get
> completely lost?)
> 
> --- On Tue, 6/3/08, John G. Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually on further thought about this conscious rock, I
> > want to take that particular rock and put it through some
> > further tests to absolutely verify with a high degree of
> > confidence that there may not be some trace amount of
> > consciousness lurking inside. So the tests that I would
> > conduct are -
> >
> > Verify the rock is in a solid state at close to absolute
> > zero but not at absolute zero.
> > The rock is not in the presence of a high frequency
> > electromagnetic field.
> > The rock is not in the presence of high frequency physical
> > vibrational interactions.
> > The rock is not in the presence of sonic vibrations.
> > The rock is not in the presence of subatomic particle
> > bombardment, radiation, or being hit by a microscopic black
> > hole.
> > The rock is not made of nano-robotic material.
> > The rock is not an advanced, non-human derived, computer.
> > The rock contains minimal metal content.
> > The rock does not contain holograms.
> > The rock does not contain electrostatic echoes.
> > The rock is a solid, spherical structure, with no worm
> > holes :)
> > The rock...
> >
> > You see what I'm getting at. In order to be 100% sure.
> > Any failed tests of the above would require further
> > scientific analysis and investigation to achieve proper
> > non-conscious certification.
> 
> You forgot a test. The postions of the atoms in the rock encode 10^25
> bits of information representing the mental states of 10^10 human brains
> at 10^15 bits each. The data is encrypted with a 1000 bit key, so it
> appears statistically random. How would you prove otherwise?
> 


Actually you are on to something. Since there are patterns in the rock,
molecular, granular, electronic, subatomic the rock has string of bits that
represent time frame samples of consciousness recordings. So I mean if they
were played with the right equipment in a certain way you might be able to
extract short consciousness clip recordings. 

Hey wait a sec - is a string of bits that represents consciousness,
conscious? Or does there have to be a victrola. Does time have to be a
variable? Hm...

John




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