Mark,

Thank you, that clarifies somewhat.

But, *my* answer to *your* question would seem to depend on what you
mean when you say "fully defined". Under the classical interpretation,
yes: the question is fully defined, so it is a "pi question". Under
the constructivist interpretation, no: the question is not fully
defined, so it is a "cat question".

 Numbers can be fully defined in the classical sense, but not in the
constructivist sense. So, when you say "fully defined question", do
you mean a question for which all answers are stipulated by logical
necessity (classical), or logical deduction (constructivist)?

--Abram Demski

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In that case, shouldn't
>> you agree with the classical perspective on Godelian incompleteness,
>> since Godel's incompleteness theorem is about mathematical systems?
>
> It depends.  Are you asking me a fully defined question within the current
> axioms of what you call mathematical systems (i.e. a pi question) or a cat
> question (which could *eventually* be defined by some massive extensions to
> your mathematical systems but which isn't currently defined in what you're
> calling mathematical systems)?
>
> Saying that Gödel is about mathematical systems is not saying that it's not
> about cat-including systems.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Abram Demski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [agi] constructivist issues
>
>


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