Definitely an understandable concern.
On Feb 19, 10:30 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Market currently gives us an unrivalled channel to get our service
> infront of Android users, and we can see competitors using it to quickly
> gain a foot hold, so it's something that has to either be part of the
> rollout or we'll have to increase spending on marketing and PR by an
> order of magnitude to try and reach the same audience, which doesn't
> make financial sense.
>
> That said, if Koolu ship the half million plus units they're predicting
> with the AndAppStore client installed, that may give us a viable route
> to a significant market with no payment method restrictions and we may
> start work again.
>
> Al.
>
>
>
> nEx.Software wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity... Why not simply sell from outside of the
> > Market?
> > I understand it is not as convenient to do so but maybe is the
> > solution for you?
>
> > Do we know what TeleNav is doing? Can't you follow their subscription
> > model?
>
> > On Feb 19, 10:11 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> The application we were working on would not be of any use without the
> >> user subscribing to the service and therefore any payments collected
> >> could voilate the "This should not be used as an alternative means to
> >> the Android MarketPayment Processor to collect payment for usage of
> >> applications." piece from text you've quoted.
>
> >> The service was very much orientated around the Android OS, so access
> >> from other platforms would be of limited use, which would re-enforce any
> >> claim by Google that payments for the service were actually a payments
> >> for using the application, even if we gave the application away for free.
>
> >> Al.
>
> >> dar wrote:
>
> >>> Thehttp://www.android.com/market/terms/developer-content-policy.html
> >>> states:
>
> >>> "Developers should only charge for applications and downloads from
> >>> Android Market through the Market's Payment Processor. Developers may
> >>> offer free applications as access points to paid services for which
> >>> customers have registered and provided payment information. This
> >>> should not be used as an alternative means to the Android Market
> >>> Payment Processor to collect payment for usage of applications. "
>
> >>> This is on my company's roadmap, so I'm curious how you came to the
> >>> conclusion that this is not allowed.
>
> >>> You'll just have to find a different payment processor to do your paid
> >>> services, and it shouldn't be hard to find one that will do
> >>> subscriptions. You just need to be careful about separating the
> >>> payment between the services and the android application. Such that
> >>> if you offer the android app for free - you can never charge for the
> >>> android app, only the data & services it consumes.
>
> >>> On Feb 19, 8:30 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> Well, after a meeting of the directors, my company has just decided to
> >>>> shelve a project that was in development due to the short commings of
> >>>> Market and it's T&Cs.
>
> >>>> The project was going to offer a subscription service and would have met
> >>>> the all the criteria for being listed on Market, but Market clearly
> >>>> can't handle subscription services. We considered the
> >>>> app-per-subscription period approach but that would mean that Google
> >>>> would have a claim to 30% of all subscription fees and because the
> >>>> subscription fees were planned to be less than $10 per billing period
> >>>> Google would also have the right to refund a users subscription fee at
> >>>> any time without consulting us.
>
> >>>> So I'd be interested to know who else is in this boat because I think
> >>>> it's something that Google need to be made aware of so that can start
> >>>> addressing the problem.
>
> >>>> Al.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> ======
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> >>>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> >>>> subsidiaries.
>
> >> --
> >> ======
> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> >> subsidiaries.
>
> --
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> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
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