We (59Pixels) are considering stopping android development in the near futures for about 10 reasons the main being
1. The 24hour return policy - http://tinyurl.com/atcou3 shows that people tend to play low cost games a few times before stopping, this is meaning that people will play the games a few times and will just get a refund 2. Users are marking our applications with a 1 star simply because we charge for a full version or because they are unable to download it from the market (not our fault) 3. Google has been silent on all issues regarding issues that have cropped up over the last few days 4. They refuse to let UK developers charge a USD price so we are having to charge our games for 0.59GBP which is putting people off. 5. and a few more. On Feb 22, 10:50 pm, Stoyan Damov <stoyan.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wow. > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Java Developer <supp...@cyntacks.com> wrote: > > > Al, > > > We finally made the decision to pull the plug too. There are about 10 > > different reasons all related to how Google has handled everything > > over the past year. From complete absence of communication, to the > > lack of RC33 on ADP1, and the terrible return/refund policy put us > > over the top. If we wanted to create a free trial period we would > > have! We just kicked out our second app half finished, put it on the > > market, and closed up our Android development. > > > It is sad that Google could mess this up so badly, but then again, are > > we that surprised that a company which releases everything in Beta > > couldn't get this right? Well, let's hope Microsoft and Blackberry > > learn from Google's mistake because we have now moved our Android guys > > to these other devices. > > > I hope we can come back to the platform, but as of now Google is just > > to immature to support it. > > > Kevin > > - Show quoted text - > > > On Feb 19, 12:38 pm, "nEx.Software" <justin.shapc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Definitely an understandable concern. > > >> On Feb 19, 10:30 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > >> > Market currently gives us an unrivalled channel to get our service > >> > infront of Android users, and we can see competitors using it to quickly > >> > gain a foot hold, so it's something that has to either be part of the > >> > rollout or we'll have to increase spending on marketing and PR by an > >> > order of magnitude to try and reach the same audience, which doesn't > >> > make financial sense. > > >> > That said, if Koolu ship the half million plus units they're predicting > >> > with the AndAppStore client installed, that may give us a viable route > >> > to a significant market with no payment method restrictions and we may > >> > start work again. > > >> > Al. > > >> > nEx.Software wrote: > >> > > Just out of curiosity... Why not simply sell from outside of the > >> > > Market? > >> > > I understand it is not as convenient to do so but maybe is the > >> > > solution for you? > > >> > > Do we know what TeleNav is doing? Can't you follow their subscription > >> > > model? > > >> > > On Feb 19, 10:11 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > >> > >> The application we were working on would not be of any use without the > >> > >> user subscribing to the service and therefore any payments collected > >> > >> could voilate the "This should not be used as an alternative means to > >> > >> the Android MarketPayment Processor to collect payment for usage of > >> > >> applications." piece from text you've quoted. > > >> > >> The service was very much orientated around the Android OS, so access > >> > >> from other platforms would be of limited use, which would re-enforce > >> > >> any > >> > >> claim by Google that payments for the service were actually a payments > >> > >> for using the application, even if we gave the application away for > >> > >> free. > > >> > >> Al. > > >> > >> dar wrote: > > >> > >>> Thehttp://www.android.com/market/terms/developer-content-policy.html > >> > >>> states: > > >> > >>> "Developers should onlychargefor applications and downloads from > >> > >>> Android Market through the Market's Payment Processor. Developers may > >> > >>> offer free applications as access points to paid services for which > >> > >>> customers have registered and provided payment information. This > >> > >>> should not be used as an alternative means to the Android Market > >> > >>> Payment Processor to collect payment for usage of applications. " > > >> > >>> This is on my company's roadmap, so I'm curious how you came to the > >> > >>> conclusion that this is not allowed. > > >> > >>> You'll just have to find a different payment processor to do your > >> > >>> paid > >> > >>> services, and it shouldn't be hard to find one that will do > >> > >>> subscriptions. You just need to be careful about separating the > >> > >>> payment between the services and the android application. Such that > >> > >>> if you offer the android app for free - you can neverchargefor the > > - Show quoted text - > >> > >>> android app, only the data & services it consumes. > > >> > >>> On Feb 19, 8:30 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > >> > >>>> Well, after a meeting of the directors, my company has just decided > >> > >>>> to > >> > >>>> shelve a project that was in development due to the short commings > >> > >>>> of > >> > >>>> Market and it's T&Cs. > > >> > >>>> The project was going to offer a subscription service and would > >> > >>>> have met > >> > >>>> the all the criteria for being listed on Market, but Market clearly > >> > >>>> can't handle subscription services. We considered the > >> > >>>> app-per-subscription period approach but that would mean that Google > >> > >>>> would have a claim to 30% of all subscription fees and because the > >> > >>>> subscription fees were planned to be less than $10 per billing > >> > >>>> period > >> > >>>> Google would also have the right to refund a users subscription fee > >> > >>>> at > >> > >>>> any time without consulting us. > > >> > >>>> So I'd be interested to know who else is in this boat because I > >> > >>>> think > >> > >>>> it's something that Google need to be made aware of so that can > >> > >>>> start > >> > >>>> addressing the problem. > > >> > >>>> Al. > > >> > >>>> -- > >> > >>>> ====== > >> > >>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >> > >>>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >> > >>>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > >> > >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >> > >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >> > >>>> subsidiaries. > > >> > >> -- > >> > >> ====== > >> > >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >> > >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >> > >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > >> > >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >> > >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >> > >> subsidiaries. > > >> > -- > >> > ====== > >> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >> > company number 6741909. 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