Hej Per,
Take some time to look in Apertium-dixtools.
There are a lot of packages like the one youve done, for different
languages:
http://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/apertium/trunk/apertium-dixtools/src/misc/
You can also look at the scripts I did for eo-en and even there is
Svensk.java<http://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/apertium/trunk/apertium-dixtools/src/misc/Svensk.java?view=log>.
The advantage is that dixtools can *edit* dix'es, and would be a good base
for an editor, but as Francis explained, a general purpose editor/add tool
is hard to do.
Jacob
2013/1/8 Per Tunedal <[email protected]>
> Hi,
> well, as I've pointed out before, to leverage the power of the users
> would speed up the development of a language pair considerably. If it
> takes one person three months on full time (3x30x5x8=3600 hours), it
> would take only 4 hours for 1000 people, wouldn't it?
> Yours,
> Per Tunedal
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013, at 17:04, Francis Tyers wrote:
> > El dl 07 de 01 de 2013 a les 16:47 +0100, en/na Per Tunedal va escriure:
> > > Hi,
> > > I believe that it's essential to create an easy way for laymen to
> > > contribute to a language pair.
> >
> > I don't believe that it is essential.
> >
> > > A. What happened to the web form?
> >
> > It's probably in SVN somewhere. There have also been other projects that
> > attempted to do this:
> >
> >
> https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/branches/gsoc2010/alessiojr
> >
> >
> https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/trunk/apertium-tools/apertium-lexical-webform
> >
> >
> https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/trunk/apertium-tools/apertium-dictionary-form
> >
> >
> https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/trunk/apertium-forms-server
> >
> > > B. Why not first try to manage the easy ones? A tool that makes it
> > > possible to easily contribute nouns and, maybe verbs, would be welcome.
> > > I've tried to create a simple tool for the pair sv-da, but it might not
> > > work for other languages.
> >
> > If you want to see how to add verbs, I suggest you check out:
> > apertium-af-nl, apertium-es-ca, apertium-fr-es, apertium-br-fr and
> > apertium-sh-mk.
> >
> > All of them have slightly different ways of dealing with verb entries,
> > and all of them are released pairs and in trunk/ -- this isn't even
> > considering pairs in staging, nursery or incubator.
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> > * af-nl (different entries for forms with ge- prefix)
> > * es-ca (different entries for different accentuation dímelo vs. dime)
> > * fr-es (uses metadix to combine paradigms for some verb forms)
> > * br-fr (includes entries for common synthetic tenses)
> > * sh-mk (uses metadix and paradigms to deal with variation)
> >
> > > http://www.tunedal.nu/download/AddToDix/ (N.B. I'm a beginner in
> Java.)
> > > And I believe others have their own tools.
> >
> > The benefit of Apertium is that it is easy to write tools for small use
> > cases. I write scripts on a case-by-case basis.
> >
> > > C. Maybe there is some fundamental design problem with the
> dictionaries,
> > > if it's that difficult to create an interface? More standardisation?
> >
> > Apertium language pairs are very heterogeneous. Making something that
> > works with all of them or even with a worthwhile subset will be
> > difficult.
> >
> > The dictionaries are designed to be representations of finite-state
> > transducers. For this they are well designed.
> >
> > I agree with standardisation, but I believe it should be an organic,
> > bottom-up standardisation, not a top-down one. The idea of coming up
> > with an "all encompassing dictionary format" would lead us to something
> > awful and unworkable like LMF.[1]
> >
> > It's better that people who work on language pairs come up with their
> > own ways of doing things, taking into account how things work in other
> > language pairs, and then sharing scripts etc.
> >
> > Fran
> >
> > 1. http://www.lexicalmarkupframework.org/
> >
> >
> >
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