Answering Laurie:

>These are technical people right. I've sent 2 emails containing the
>Arachne brouser tag at the bottom of each message.

Oooh, a big can of worms! They are there to answer so many queries a
day; funnel us down the pipe that best suits them and their commercial
partners; and generate premium rate phone call income by reading the
obviously useless off their scripts.   

>> I saw such software described a few days ago. Think it was DOS.
>
>If you know of software that works with Arachne that does the same job
>and works in DOS could you pass me the link, I had a look around and
>it was all software for windoze.

The description was something like "manage mail on the server" and
would've been either Win3.1 or DOS, but I've not been able to retrace
my movements. 

>That possibly confirms it was Arachne's server problem. I hope it
>doesn't happen again because we could end up giving Arachne a
>troublesome reputation with Freeserve. If anyone who does not have
>much experience or alternative software in order to gain access to
>the pop server to delete the emails that won't download, has to run
>to the technical helpdesk.

Freeserve are well used to clearing customers mail for them. You're
more likely to have them in awe by not using a bog-standard setup.
If you have a Windows machine you could try FoxMail. I intend taking
a copy on a floppy to the library where the Net-enabled homework PCs
have usable floppy drives. We've now got free access (have to book the
session), so any JavaScript created problem can be overcome :-)

>I'm on local phone charges, but I am slightly better catered for, at
>least I can connect, but I did say slightly. When I tried to subscribe
>to the Freeserve Unlimited etc at:
>
>https://join.freeserve.com:80/welcome.shtml
>
>All I got was a terse "go away, unrecognised browser" Undetered I went
>to A's web site and downloaded the SHTML.APM, which to a Internet dummy
>like myself, look's like it will make Arachne access web pages with
>a shtml sufix. Back to Freeserves website.."go away, unrecognised
>browser"

I can get to the first section of the Anytime signup, but then there's
JavaScript form validation (that Opera can't do) for the poor dears who
can't enter their phone number with a leading zero etc. V21.co.uk may
be an option -- they've got a Mac support number which might be good
for extra hand-holding. �10 per month, credit card only.

{{ installing M$IE5 }}
>I thought that was funny.  {{ I don't! }}   >It is a terrible shame.  {{ It is! }}  
>I like the idea of using top end 486's with plenty of RAM for normal email
>and no frills www, It's quick, I like the style of Arachne, it's very efficient and
>written, developed and supported by people who have forgoten more about
>computers than I will ever know.

I'm not averse to using a bottom end 486. I've heard of DX66s coming with
the slow UART which would be something to watch out for, unless you
use an internal modem.

>For what I what It's virtualy ideal, and for the web sites I use it
>works fine, BUT 98% of them are not commercial company websites. If I
>do have to visit a company website normally I can have a problem
>somewhere, if it involves entering TEXT there is always a problem,
>not recognising Arachne's mouse clicks is a favorite;

That's most likely JavaScript form validation.

> and going to an ISP homepage, and trying to open an account on line
> is usualy a waste of time.

Welshnet.co.uk should work, but it's pay per minute and you'd have to
put up with the sheep-shagging jokes.

>It makes me feel like a one legged man in an **** kicking contest at
>times, but I like you feel that it's THEIR problem, and not Arachne's.

Keep kicking!  They'll have to confirm to requirements of Web-enabled
TVs soon, assuming they become a mainstream optional extra -- they
aren't selling well in the UK yet. In recent correspondence with a civil
servant I mentioned IBM being fined due to the official site for the Sydney
Olympics not allowing easy access to all visitors. He got quite uppity,
saying "it wasn't *all* visitors, only the blind" -- interpreting "all" as "every". 

Regards,

Jake

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