Hey Chris - thanks for the PERIOD (EH) thesaurus link. Last time Phil sent me the EVENTS thesaurus as an attachment to import into Arches - see conversation of 18 Sep in this Forum. Do you know what format I need to save the PERIOD (EH) thesaurus to in order to import it as a thesaurus to Arches?
Cheers again, Jude. On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 9:37:33 AM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: > Hi Jude, > > Phil helpfully maintains a website with the PERIOD (EH) thesaurus, along > with other vocabs from HE, Historic Environment Scotland, and RCAHMW. I > believe you want the Historic England Periods Authority File in SKOS / RDF > format. > > https://www.heritagedata.org/blog/vocabularies-provided/ > > Hope this helps. > > Chris Dolby > Project Manager > Historic England > > On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 4:20:49 PM UTC+1 [email protected] > wrote: > >> Sorry to be a pain as well, but do you have the PERIOD (EH) thesaurus to >> hand that I can reimport? You'll see from my other conversation that I >> haven't actually 'covered myself in glory' in adding the new child terms, >> but I figure, making mistakes is how I learn anything - ain't that the >> truth! >> >> Thanks again, you really do provide an invaluable lifeline on all this, I >> owe you several beers when pubs come back into existence! Jude. >> >> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 4:16:02 PM UTC+1 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Phil, that makes total sense. I did an Advanced Search to find >>> what data is in that node (so I can delete it) and the only name it came up >>> with was 'John Smith' which I recall was a test record - but then it >>> doesn't return the record(s) this data is in...see attached screen grab. >>> >>> Otherwise I will go through all 6,000 records and delete the data from >>> the node and then make the change - that will work, will get there. >>> >>> Cheers, Jude. >>> >>> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 2:28:08 PM UTC+1 >>> [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jude, >>>> >>>> The answer to the export, change, re-import is here >>>> https://arches.readthedocs.io/en/stable/command-line-reference/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> See the Export business data and Import business data sections. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’ve used import a lot but never export so I can only point you at the >>>> theory. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The process though, would be: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Export data to /business_data folder >>>> 2. Modify Graph >>>> 3. Export Graph and save to your Graphs/Resource_Models folder >>>> 4. Create mapping file and concepts folder. >>>> 5. Save mapping file and concepts file to business_data folder. >>>> 6. Import data via command line using >>>> 1. python manage.py packages -o import_business_data -s >>>> 'path_to_source_file' -c 'path_to_mapping_file' -ow overwrite >>>> --create_concepts create --bulk_load >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hope that helps >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Phil Carlisle* >>>> >>>> Knowledge Organization Specialist >>>> >>>> Information Analysis >>>> >>>> Policy and Evidence Group >>>> >>>> Historic England >>>> >>>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)1793 414824 <+44%201793%20414824> >>>> >>>> Mobile: +44 (0)7768 656427 <+44%207768%20656427> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Many Historic England staff are working remotely at the moment and we >>>> are doing what we can to maintain our level of response but please bear >>>> with us as this may be slower than usual. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On >>>> Behalf Of *[email protected] >>>> *Sent:* 19 October 2020 13:48 >>>> *To:* Arches Project <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Arches] Graph Validation Error (you cannot modify a >>>> Resource Model with instances) - how do I find instances? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> THIS IS AN EXTERNAL EMAIL: do not click any links or open any >>>> attachments unless you trust the sender and were expecting the content to >>>> be sent to you >>>> >>>> I suppose it's us wanting to work with developing Arches as we work >>>> with the data and learn Arches, without then having to dump out all the >>>> data and reimport each time we want to add a new node; or change the name >>>> or an existing node; or change the resource-instance a node uses, i.e. >>>> from >>>> 'Person (Actor)' to 'Organisation (Actor)'. These changes only tend to >>>> emerge once you start working with the data and shaping it within Arches - >>>> hard to figure every move out in advance I tend to find. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your help - I won't be hitting the delete button for >>>> now. Hopefully there's another way, even if it is export; change Resource >>>> Models; reimport data. If that's the only way, is there a guide on how to >>>> do that? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, Jude. >>>> >>>> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 1:33:25 PM UTC+1 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Alexei, that's helpful. Will doing that delete all the >>>> Monuments? Surely there's the function to be able to change a >>>> resource-instances for a Node without having to delete all the records >>>> from >>>> the Resource Model? Same with wanting to change the name given to a node >>>> - >>>> is there a way to change the name given to a node without having to delete >>>> the entire database? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I really don't want to have to delete all 6,000 Monument records for >>>> when I want to make a change to a resource-instance for a node. Feels a >>>> little extreme. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help, Jude. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 10:05:15 PM UTC+1 Alexei Peters wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jude, >>>> >>>> If you want to delete all the "Monument" instances just go to the graph >>>> designer for that model. Then select the "Manage" button in the upper >>>> left >>>> corner. That should give you an option to delete all instances of that >>>> model. >>>> >>>> I know it's obvious, but this is permanent. There is no way to undo >>>> the delete of all the instances. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Alexei >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173 >>>> <(971)%20227-3173> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:12 AM [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We're starting to edit our data in Arches (only 6,000 records), can >>>> anyone help with this query. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I need to change the resource-instance in the node 'Compiler >>>> (organisation)' from 'Person (Actor)' to 'Organisation (Actor)'. (We >>>> needed to create the separate Resource Model 'Organisation (Actor)' to >>>> allow us to capture these records). However, when I do this I get a Graph >>>> Validation Error and I cannot save the edit to the Resource Model. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How do I find the 'instances saved' so I can edit or delete them, in >>>> order that I can then make the above change? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, I'm sure there's a simple way, all part of us learning Arches >>>> here, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jude. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- To post, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe, >>>> send email to [email protected]. 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